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'''Amigos de The Cubs Fan'''
== A change on handling locations ==


Trato de crear una pagina con el luchador Electron en la categoria de Guatemalan Wrestlers, pero siempre me lleva a la de Electron de Mexican Wrestlers. '''Como puedo incluir a este luchador en esta categoria?'''
Previously, we'd link to locations like this


En mi intento, erroneamente ingrese el nombre de Ectron en esta lista y no tuve oportunidad de borrarlo. Les agredecere mucho que puedan borrar ese error y ayudarme a crear la pagina del luchador que les comento.
:[[Arena Jalisco]], [[Guadalajara]], [[Jalisco]]


Tambie he buscado un correo electronico a donde dirigirme pero no lo encuentro.
My thinking is, when people looking for location information, they're rarely looking for the information on the state or city. Those pages fulfill what we need out of them, but I think the building/primarily location info is the only thing that really needs to be linked to. (That same city/state/country info would be linked to on the arena/building page if it's still desired.)


'''Aprovecho para felicitarlos por la creación de este sitio''' y estoy recabando información de muchos luchadores de mi pais Guatemala, para incluirlos aca.
I've started completely enclosing the location in one link instead.


== Tag Team Title ==
:[[Arena Jalisco, Guadalajara, Jalisco]]
The [[AAA Northern Tag Team Championship]] and the [[Northeast Tag Team Championship]] are the same or two different. If they are the same, we should unite, otherwise just leave them alone.


I'm not sure if they are or not. At first glance I thought they might be, but they may have just been confused for each other. Let me check in to this. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] 19:53, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
You don't have to do this, that's just why I've made that change on what I've done. --[[User:Thecubsfan|Thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Thecubsfan|talk]]) 14:18, 26 March 2015 (CDT)


== LLF Junior and Juvenil Title ==
== Lucha Libre World Cup ==
This titles are two differents championships, i think that the junior are more new.
Lucha Libre World Cup's Facebook page has some interesting data. El Mesías profile has debut date as April 30, 1997. El Texano Jr. profile has he debuted on February 24, 1999 and El Hijo Del Fantasma has July 4, 2000. I don't add that data to LuchaWiki profiles due I don't know if all dates are correct. What can we do? - [[User:Mike09|Mike09]] ([[User talk:Mike09|talk]])


I'm just going to overuse the reference tags to make it work. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 12:57, 8 June 2015 (CDT)


TO: thecubsfan
== UWF World Heavyweight Championship ==
This title I think that there is no relationship with Mexico. --[[User:Campeon|Campeon]] ([[User talk:Campeon|talk]]) 10 JAN. 2016


mmm.... who told you that?? because coco amarillo(indómito) and ojo diabólico says the same thing, OJO DIABÓLICO WAS THE ONLY ONE COCO AZUL
== Taz el Feroz/Sangre Guerrera ==
but if you don't want believe, i have no problem, i'll being contributing with real data, given by the luchadores
rocky lobo confirmed that there is a mistaken identity,Taz el Feroz and Sangre Guerrera are the same luchador.
thanks...


== Sydistiko ==
== Magnus / Príncipe Dragón ==
Who is Sydistiko II.
Hi dude. A guy created a profile for [[Príncipe Dragón]] and upload pictures of [[CMLL]]'s [[Magnus]] on it. Are both wrestlers the same person? Príncipe Dragón's profile has some apuesta matches I actually can't found out, really that matches happened? First apuesta match on the profile took place at Arena Naucalpan, a FILL tournament took place that night.


TJP are the first and London the third.


It was rumored to be Alex Abrahantes, who is one of the bookers/writers. http://twitter.com/TheAListAlexIz


== Mike09 ==
== Adding Categories ==
Gracias, intento hacer lo mejor que puedo para ayudar con los torneos, campeonatos y luchadores.
Hi! I have recently having trouble by adding wrestlers to new categories.  I try to include them in another category but their names don't appear when I check the list. The link is there but they are not added. Besides, I recently created a page for a new championship, but it does not appear in the list of Championships either.


Que bueno que les gustó lo que hice con la [[Copa LLF]]. [[User:Mike09|Mike09]]
The category listings sometimes take a little while to update, but it looks like [[International Women's Championship]] is listed in those categories now. --[[User:Thecubsfan|Thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Thecubsfan|talk]]) 10:28, 14 November 2016 (PST)


== Main page ==
Yes, that Championship is already listed; however the  [[Arena Nacionalista Championship]] has not been listed yet.  It is the most recent Championship I added.
Thanks for your time!


Why is currently featured bio always the same on main page of luchawiki?
Looks like the program to update those pages hasn't been running. I've got it all caught up for now, but will need to figure out why it's not running. I'll keep working on this. --[[User:Thecubsfan|Thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Thecubsfan|talk]]) 13:52, 14 November 2016 (PST)


I rarely think about it. I never visit the main page - I'm always in thru the Recent Changes feed or by doing a search in the browser, so I don't ever see it to think about. I want to update it, but there's about 1,000 things I want to do and I can only get to 25 of them.


What I need to do is
== Rules ==
* figure out 50 or so to rotate thru the main page
Hello!  I have question regarding with the rules.  I recently interviewed [[El Indomable]] he provided the information of the profile and a couple of pictures as well.  However, he asked me as a favor not posting pictures of him unmasked under one of his previous gimmicks (Cheyene), because it compromises his current character.  He has not lost the mask under neither of his previous gimmicks.  Personally, I am respectful with the concept of the masked luchador and contribute to keep the luchadors' Identities as a secret until they make them public. All these years I have been glad to contribute with this webpage as best as I can.  The discussion of the this issue is completely unexpected for me and I would like to find the best solution.
* come up with some ways to automate the page getting updated
* allow other people to mess with it.


I'll see what I can do. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] 20:43, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for updating Main Page. I just  wonder, isn't there any system or whatever to change it automatically, like when you click Random Page button? Also, sorry to bother you, why number of pages as seen on Main Page at the top right corner is always 4006? Again, sorry to bother you. I know that you have better things to do.
Hey. The policy has always been that if the luchador has ever wrestled unmasked, it's OK to both include photos of their unmasked character and their real name if publicly known. We've had this situation with [[Sexy Star]], where we included both her unmasked photos as Dulce Poly and her real name before she gave up the mask. This has been our policy with [[Aerostar]], whose very early unmasked character is displayed right with the rest of his images. We didn't shy away from including information and unmasked photos of Poder Mexica while he was masked as [[Comandante Pierroth]], which probably did compromise his ability to portray himself as a 'new' character. There are other examples.


I thought about doing random text, but none of the extensions I looked at seemed to do a great job of handling it. Whatever I was going to do, it was going to require copying the profile text into another page - I couldn't find a way to just rip it out of an existing page. Random pages would also start repeating after a short time unless we have many of them, and one of the chronic problems with the wiki is we don't really have enough biographical text on the profiles.  
There is a guideline of not including the real name of a wrestler who has '''never''' wrestled unmasked, born not just out of respect, but also out of understanding that we would have this actual argument three hundred times over and it would be a distraction from maintaining this site. It's always been the policy that if a luchador wrestled unmasked at any point, it is fine to include the name and unmasked character. There's some logistical reasons for it - removing one name and one photo isn't on this profile isn't that much, but we'd have to remove all unmasked photos of Silver King whenever he decides to use mask, or all mentions entirely of Ricky Marvin when he was Bengala - but it's more specifically about what I want this wiki to be.


The solution I came up with was to have the main page ''automatically'' change the profile on a weekly basis. Each week of the year is linked to a different template - you can see the list on [[User:Nkhan]] - and it'll move down to the next template on the list at the start of the week. The main page will look different every Monday, which should be good enough, as long as we fill in enough templates. We're good for a month right now, and anyone can really fill in the others if I don't get them done without needing main page access. It'll repeat after a year, but that's much better than it is now.
Luchawiki is about preserving the history of lucha libre as best we can. Sometimes, it's not as accurate as we'd like it to be and it's never as complete as it could be. However, we're never about removing items which are both accurate and relevant. I can sympathize with El Indomable being unhappy about a photo of wrestling unmasked on this wiki, but it did happen. I'm more concerned with keeping the people who visit the site happy that they're seeing the best possible version of what this wiki can be rather than keeping everyone mentioned happy. I respect the luchadors, but this is a site for the readers first, and I want to respect them by not hiding information from them.


I've also automated the profile count. The function to count pages has a warning that it may use up a lot of resources. If there's a problem, we might have to find a different solution later, but it looks nice right now.
I'm going to rollback the edits on the El Indomable page to the last version Flashmagic had, fix the apuesta data as you did, and lock the page for the moment. --[[User:Thecubsfan|Thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Thecubsfan|talk]]) 15:16, 29 March 2017 (PDT)


:Really neat stuff. As a note, you can simplify the main page transclusion code for the profile to <code><nowiki>{{MainProfile{{#time:W}}}}</nowiki></code>. MediaWiki templates are fun! :) [[User:TKD|TKD]] 04:25, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


::I wasn't sure if you could do that with template names and I knew I could do it with switch/case. That was a bit nicer to look at. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] 05:21, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
== [[UIPW]] ==
Hi I was looking at the [[UIPW]] page and it says the promotion is Underground Independent Pro Wrestling but isn't it actually Union Independent Pro Wrestling? Just wondering, cause if it is suppose to be Union Independent Pro Wrestling then the page should be renamed. Thanks for your time.--[[User:Latin915|Latin915]] ([[User talk:Latin915|talk]]) 08:59, 14 October 2017 (PDT)


:::I remembered primarily because Wikipedia's Main Page has done it a similar way (except daily, of course) for years. [[User:TKD|TKD]] 06:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
I think it's meant to be the Underground name - [http://socaluncensored.com/venue/underground-auditorium/ that's the nickname for the arena]. The only places it's listed is Union are on other databases; I can't find it listed that name by the promotion. (I can find it that way in other databases, but they seem to be confusing it for a Canada? promotion that used the same initials.) It really looks like UIPW just effectively for UIPW at this point; they only refer it to by the initials. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 16:39, 15 October 2017 (PDT)


Do main page featured bio templates have to be in alphabetical order? I'm planning on making one. P. S. What do I need to do, to be able to ban users? --[[User:LuchaLover619|LuchaLover619]] ([[User talk:LuchaLover619|talk]]) 18:33, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes that's where I saw the confusion in that its listed as Union Independent Pro Wrestling in other databases like you said. Ok thanks again.--[[User:Latin915|Latin915]] ([[User talk:Latin915|talk]]) 20:59, 15 October 2017 (PDT)


== Pages To Delete ==
== [[Chile wrestlers]] ==
Hi a user named Perseo.historia created the page [[Chile wrestlers]]. If you look at the page, I'm not sure what the user was going for with the page but there is already a category for Chilean wrestlers. So I would file this page as nominated for deletion. Thanks for your time. --[[User:Latin915|Latin915]] ([[User talk:Latin915|talk]]) 14:08, 16 June 2018 (PDT)


I found this page http://luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Getting_Satellite_Tv_For_Pc_Television_Set_From_Online_Sources. Please delete it, because it is just an advertising and has nothing to do with Lucha Libre. Also ban the user, who created this page. Thank You. [[User:LuchaLover619|LuchaLover619]] ([[User talk:LuchaLover619|talk]]) 14:52, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Perseo contacted me few days ago asking me about how to upload information here, he is still learning. He does not know how to upload pictures or working the other tools. I am not sure what is he trying to do if either creating a category or a new profile.


== Why did you delete page Jigsaw? ==
[[User:Tunderman|Tunderman]] ([[User talk:Tunderman|talk]]) 22:30, 16 June 2018 (PDT)


It is said here, that he has no lucha connection. But I found, that he wrestled a match for Viva La Lucha in 2007.
== [[Fugitivo del futuro]] ==
Source: http://www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=bios&wrestler=490&bild=1&details=7&kampfland=4&jahr=2007 --[[User:LuchaLover619|LuchaLover619]] ([[User talk:LuchaLover619|talk]]) 13:20, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Someone created this page: [[Fugitivo del futuro]]. I'm not familiar with this luchador if you want to check it out. Also because the page isn't well done. Missing Bio, an image etc. Thanks.  
--[[User:Latin915|Latin915]] ([[User talk:Latin915|talk]]) 13:27, 28 June 2018 (PDT)


==NWE==
== [[El pocho]] ==
Hi a user named Goldeneraluchatees created this page: [[El pocho]]. I'm not familiar with this luchador if you want to check it out. Also because the page isn't well done and the image on the page doesn't look real. Thanks. --[[User:Latin915|Latin915]] ([[User talk:Latin915|talk]]) 02:13, 19 July 2018 (PDT)


I have a question. Is Nu-Wrestling Evolution (NWE) a wrestling promotion in Italy considered a lucha promotion? If yes, then I could create its page here on Luchawiki. --[[User:LuchaLover619|LuchaLover619]] ([[User talk:LuchaLover619|talk]]) 18:24, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
I've never heard about him either, and I think this guy could be fake.  But I will try to find something. [[User:Tunderman|Tunderman]] ([[User talk:Tunderman|talk]]) 07:13, 19 July 2018 (PDT)


It's not a lucha promotion, much more US styled. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 05:19, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
He is real he was also a referee in Tijuana.
[[User:Tunderman|Tunderman]] ([[User talk:Tunderman|talk]]) 11:21, 19 July 2018 (PDT)


== Two different pages for one object ==
== Fake accounts and spam ==
If you look at the [http://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Log/newusers New user creation log] there is a lot of fake accounts created recently. Probably one person who creates them for when one gets blocked they can just use the other ones.


[[Zarco]] and [[Zarco (Tijuana)]] are the same wrestlers.
All these fake accounts lead to all the spam being created now multiple times a day as seen in the [http://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Log/delete Deletion log].


[[LLF Tag Team Titles]] and [[LLF Tag Team Championship]] are the same titles.
So maybe you should consider suspending new user creation for the time being til a solution can be found. Just a suggestion. I don't know if it's possible but at this point with the number of spam pages & fake accounts now occurring so frequently then maybe you should consider it. Thanks for your time. --[[User:Latin915|Latin915]] ([[User talk:Latin915|talk]]) 03:10, 12 August 2018 (PDT)


== Douki ==
== [[Ray]] ==
Hi, the Japanese wrestler [[Douki]] is mentioned as '''Dowki''' with the "w" in the IWRG's cards.
The page for [[Ray]] is protected. When you get a chance if you could add her obituary date and add her to the Deceased wrestlers category. Thanks.  
How we could fix on the page?
--[[User:Latin915|Latin915]] ([[User talk:Latin915|talk]]) 12:59, 31 August 2018 (PDT)


== Photo ==
== Alex Segura / King Star Tiger ==
http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=File:Kristy1.png this picture is the same than http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=File:Kristy-2012.png, but the second is used in a page and the first no.
Hi my friend. I noted that recently unmasked [[AULL]] wrestler King Star Tiger is Indy/Ecatepec wrestler Alex Segura. Before become King Star Tiger, he wrestled as masked Oveja Negra, and unmasked Alex Segura at same time. He declared to Más Lucha that his son is wrestling as [[King Star Tiger Jr.]]. There's an [[Alex Segura Jr.]] wrestling on indy circuit, perhaps Alex Segura Jr./King Star Tiger Jr. are also the same person? I added some data to the profile, but I hope you can do something to fix that pages. I think apuesta matches from [[Alex Segura]] are currently King Star Tiger and not [[Pantera I]], starting from dates these matches took place. Victor Nava is Pantera's name, should we add his real name to the profile? -- [[User:Mike09|Mike09]] ([[User talk:Mike09|talk]]) 18:00, 6 September 2018 (PDT)


== Hair match controversy ==
Thanks. We don't have a mask loss for Pantera I yet so I'll leave his real name off. I've made the other changes to Alex Segura/King Star Tiger. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 10:49, 7 September 2018 (PDT)
Hi, In the page of [[El Hijo Del Cien Caras]] says he defeated Vampiro Casanova to take his hair. [[El Pulpo]] says he win the hair of Vampiro Hispano the same day in the same arena ([http://djspectro.blogspot.mx/2012/08/recor-del-luchador-pulpo.html]). The Vampiro Casanova and Vampiro Hispano are the same correct?? But then the match was a "triangular"??? Who won the hair of Vampiro??


== Guerrero Maya Jr ==
== Shocker ==
Hi. In the [[Guerrero Maya Jr.]] profile, the space alien makeup/gear that you says we need is this image??
Hi I don't remember if you mentioned it on your blog but what happened to Shocker's jaw? I saw him on a recent interview and was surprised at the drastic change in his look. He mentioned something about an injury and I vaguely remember him wearing head gear while wrestling. --[[User:Latin915|Latin915]] ([[User talk:Latin915|talk]]) 03:04, 10 October 2018 (PDT)


[[File:GM-Jr-Makeup.jpg|200px]]
Diamante Azul broke Shocker's jaw in a match. Shocker's had multiple surgeries to fix it. He says one of them did not go well and the jaw is stuck looking bad until he can get another. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 07:18, 10 October 2018 (PDT)


That one is good, but I'm thinking of the one where he has the shirt/top too. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 18:23, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Wow interesting. Cool thanks. --[[User:Latin915|Latin915]] ([[User talk:Latin915|talk]]) 14:58, 10 October 2018 (PDT)


== User Name ==
== Templates ==
This is not a lucha libre related topic, but can I change my user name on Luchawiki? If so, how? --[[User:LuchaLover619|LuchaLover619]] ([[User talk:LuchaLover619|talk]]) 07:48, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Hey man. Recently I created two templates. The first is [[Template:9Team2RoundBracket]], used in tournaments like [[NGX King of Deathmatch]]. Can you check out if the template have errors? The second one is [[Template:Disambiguation]]. I opted to create it in order to have a fastest way to use it in pages with disambiguations, shared identities, promotions with same name, etc. Please check out this one also to avoid issues. Thanks, greetings. -- [[User:Mike09|Mike09]] ([[User talk:Mike09|talk]]) 09:52, 12 October 2018 (PDT)


== Pages to delete ==
Both look good to me. That's good work. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 12:16, 12 October 2018 (PDT)
An user had problems trying rename a page and he create this wrong pages:
*[[User:Gallo Dorado]]
*[[Talk:Gallo Dorado]]
Can you delete the pages?


== NWA Middle Title ==
== Jesus Silva Hernandez ==
Hi friend. [[Texano Jr.]] uploaded [https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=448116628599301&set=a.106725772738390.9765.106714076072893&type=1&theater this poster] in his Facebook page. [[Pequeño Halloween]] also uploaded the poster. The poster says a new champion of [[NWA World Middleweight Title]] was crowned, but I don't know if the tournament was held. You know some about this?
After you unlocked the page, the user just did the same thing 10 years later if you want to check it out.
--[[User talk:Mike09|Mike09]].
*[[Jesus Silva Hernandez]]
Thanks for your time.
--[[User:Latin915|Latin915]] ([[User talk:Latin915|talk]]) 20:08, 19 August 2019 (PDT)


I saw that poster too, but I don't know if the show actually occurred either. I can't find results anywhere. It doesn't seem to be acknowledged by the NWA at all and since the point of assigning new champions was that they'd be official NWA titles, it probably shouldn't be considered the 'real' title when it turns up. Maybe something like the WCW/Tijuana titles. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 02:20, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
== Dr. Karonte ==
 
Today Dr. Karonte passed away, but the question is which of all? Several, Facebook pages said it was [[Dr. Karonte]] (Manuel Almanza), but many of them mixed pictures of him and [[Dr. Karonte I]] which must be [[Caristico]]'s father. Even MásLucha TV got the wrong person. Do you know which of all Dr. Karontes passed away and check if the infomartion of both is correct in their respective profiles, because I think these profiles' information is mixed up. For this reason, I do not know how to update de info.   
== Infierno Rockers ==
--[[User:Tunderman|Tunderman]] ([[User talk:Tunderman|talk]]) 17:14, 26 August 2019 (PDT)
Hi. Luchawiki says [[Devil Rocker]] is Tito Santana and [[Soul Rocker]] is Picudo. The AAA website says Devil Rocker is the more experienced of all [[Infierno Rockers]]. If he is the more experienced of all members, so he is Picudo. Also, Soul Rocker looks more young than Devil Rocker and Tito Santana is more young than Picudo. This is the only error. [[Machine Rocker]] is Semental due both have a mole on their chest. [[Uro Rocker]] also is right due his height and weight.
 
*[http://luchalibreaaa.com/roster/rudos.html AAA page] to check this. - [[User talk:Mike09|Mike09]]
 
Let's go with that, though I'm almost positive they've called those two the opposite names on TV (as recently as Rey de Reyes) and I'm totally confused. The stuff you're pointing out on the website make sense. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 17:31, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Monje Negro/Texano ==--[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 01:39, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
[[Monje Negro Jr.]] profile says he unmasked [[Texano Jr.]] when Texano was Kempo Kid. Texano Jr. lost his mask in Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, but Luchawiki says he lost against [[Stuka Jr.]] and also says he lost against [[Monje Negro Jr.]]. What can we do it? - [[User talk:Mike09|Mike09]]
 
Jose had the Monje unmasking Texano bit, and I still have his records so I can confirm that. I don't have results from that show, but he switched from Kempo Kid to Texano Jr. around that time. It's possible he could've also lost his mask to [[Stuka I]], but I can't find any source outside our own on that, so I'll leave it off and put the Monje Negro Jr. one on.
 
== Oficial Factor ==
Hi. In Tercera Caida's facebook a guy wrote [[Factor|Oficial Factor]] is son of [[Vigilante]], one of originals oficials. Factor's real name is Cesar Caballero and Vigilante's real name is Jesus Caballero. Both has the same last name. The guy also says Vigilante wrestled as Rokambole II. [https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=590738270950599&set=a.127300037294427.16614.127292923961805&type=1&comment_id=94057673&offset=0&total_comments=23 Link of this information]. Please check this, thanks. All this is about much people unkown why Factor competes for Juniors title. - [[User talk:Mike09|Mike09]]
 
==Delete page==
A user made ​​a mistake and put the real name of the wrestler instead of your name in the ring and can not be changed, as long as this link [[Paloma Rouse]]
 
== Super Nova ==
Hey, Super Nova recently [http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=File:Super-Nova-Double-Champ.jpg appear on IWRG] with the UWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Championship and NWA World Light Heavyweight Championship. Through his official facebook, Super Nova says he won the titles on May 19, 2013 in Blackfoot, Idaho after defeated El Hijo de Rey Misterio II, Lizmark Jr. and Operativo 209. Also says the event scheduled on March by NWA Middle Title was rescheduled to May 19, 2013, but was by Light Heavy title, not the Middle. The UWA title was announced as Operativo 209 as champion, but I don't have idea when or where won he the title. You know some about that? - [[User talk:Mike09|Mike09]]
 
Aparently the title is real promoted by NWA. The belt [http://gritaradio.com/files/2010/03/IMG_2892-550x365.jpg appear] on this file when Demon was champion and is very similar at belt won by Cassandro. Nova and Cassandro travel together around the world, according to Super Nova facebook.
 
== Accounts ==
Exists any form to block all these guys who every day create new accounts in Luchawiki? I'm thinking block them from their IP direction or something of the sort if they in a future think to create more accounts. - [[User:Mike09|Mike09]]
 
We have two different spambot protection methods and they've slipped by both. I will work on it. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 14:51, 25 June 2013 (CDT)
 
== WWA Title ==
Hi guy. [[El Hijo del Solitario]] won the [[WWA World Junior Heavyweight Title]] on [[April 21]], [[2013]] in [[Arena Jalisco]] after defeated [[Cien Caras Jr.]] in the final of an 8-Man Elimination Match. The title won by Solitario apparently is a new and different title that the [[WWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Title]]. El Hijo del Solitario's title is a new championship? (I no remember any match by WWA World Junior Heavyweight Title before) or is the same of WWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Title? - [[User:Mike09|Mike09]]
 
I would assume it's the Junior Light Heavyweight title. There is no real ongoing WWA promotion (they pop up a couple times a year in Tijuana), so no one's making new belts. I would guess it's Wagner's title and Solitario got it somehow.
 
=== Psycho Circus ===
I found a [https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1185703_640846192600691_590467740_n.jpg wrestling card] from [[August 24]], [[2013]] in Gimnasio Municipal Josue Neri Santos of Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua. The Main Event of the card announced a Masks vs Hairs Match between [[Los Psycho Circus]] ([[Monster Clown]], [[Murder Clown]], & [[Psycho Clown]]) and the Juarez Legends ([[Cinta de Oro]], [[Crazy 33]], & [[Rocky Star]]). I don't know if the match it happened. This [http://www.gerweck.net/2013/06/22/the-lucha-report-for-622%E2%80%8F/ page] says an [[AAA World Trios Titles]] vs Hairs Match, but I also don't know about that. You know some of that? This sound like The Psycho Circus won three hairs this month. - [[User:Mike09|Mike09]]
 
The Juarez show was actually canceled! I'm not sure why. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 12:29, 30 August 2013 (CDT)
 
==Rogelio el Plancha==
problems trying rename a page, Rogelio el Plancha will wrestle in Mexico as hip hop man
 
Can you change the page?
[[Rogelio el Plancha]]
 
== Veneno ==
I found some sources where says about a promoter named [[Chacho Medina]], the father of Veneno. Can you add this to Veneno's profile? Have you heard about Chacho Medina?
*[http://www.ovaciones.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6265:veneno-de-importacion&catid=5:otros-deportes&Itemid=5 Ovaciones]
*[https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=387873057981568&set=a.387873044648236.1073741852.352798004822407&type=1 Super Raton's facebook]
The facebook of [[Super Raton]] is very interesting. That page has a lot of info, has the belts that Super Raton has won and more. - [[User talk:Mike09]]
 
Thanks! I've made the changes. I should look through Super Raton's facebook for more when I get a chance. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 10:08, 3 October 2013 (CDT)
 
== Kato Kung Lee ==
[[Kato Kung Lee Jr.]] and [[El Hijo de Kato Kung Lee]] are the same person, or are two differents wrestlers? Luchawiki contains the profile of Kato Kung Lee Jr. but not the El Hijo de Kato Kung Lee one. In Google I found some things about El Hijo de Kato Kung Lee, for example, he is from Monterrey, but not have idea if he is real son of [[Kato Kung Lee]]. He recently won a mask in Arena Coliseo Monterrey. - [[User talk:Mike09]]
 
I'm really not sure on this one. If I had to guess, I'd say they were the same person, but I'm absolutely not sure about it. I'll try asking someone who might know. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 13:13, 11 October 2013 (CDT)
 
They [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zKupLlTUus aired this match on TV!] On the broadcast, they listed him as Kato Kung Lee Jr., so I think it's the same guy just being used with the interchangeable names. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 12:58, 15 October 2013 (CDT)
 
== AAA Heavy Title ==
The eight defense of Texano Jr's reign against Mascara Año 2000 Jr. was listed [https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1005684_557573594292281_1554006083_n.jpg here]. I saw some photos and I read in the KBW facebook profile about that. - [[User talk:Mike09]]
 
Thanks. I read that was announced but forgot - the Gladiatores didn't have their usual KBW recap! --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 12:35, 25 October 2013 (CDT)
 
==WWL==
World Wrestling League (WWL) is considered a lucha promotion?.
 
Nah, it's  a Puerto Rician promotion which happens to run in Mexico. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 00:28, 4 November 2013 (CST)
 
== UWF ==
I think the page of [[Universal/FULL UWF Super Middleweight Championship|UWF World Super Middleweight Championship]] should be divided in the Original branch and Monterrey branch. In the original branch, Shu El Guerrero was the last known champion in 1994. The Shu El Guerrero's and Monterrey's ones are two differents titles physically speaking. Shu El Guerrero defended his title on November 10, 2013 against Negro Navarro in Coacalco and he wore the original belt. What do you think? - [[User talk:Mike09]]

Revision as of 19:07, 26 August 2019

(deleted old messages. They're always still there on the history page.)

A change on handling locations

Previously, we'd link to locations like this

Arena Jalisco, Guadalajara, Jalisco

My thinking is, when people looking for location information, they're rarely looking for the information on the state or city. Those pages fulfill what we need out of them, but I think the building/primarily location info is the only thing that really needs to be linked to. (That same city/state/country info would be linked to on the arena/building page if it's still desired.)

I've started completely enclosing the location in one link instead.

Arena Jalisco, Guadalajara, Jalisco

You don't have to do this, that's just why I've made that change on what I've done. --Thecubsfan (talk) 14:18, 26 March 2015 (CDT)

Lucha Libre World Cup

Lucha Libre World Cup's Facebook page has some interesting data. El Mesías profile has debut date as April 30, 1997. El Texano Jr. profile has he debuted on February 24, 1999 and El Hijo Del Fantasma has July 4, 2000. I don't add that data to LuchaWiki profiles due I don't know if all dates are correct. What can we do? - Mike09 (talk)

I'm just going to overuse the reference tags to make it work. --thecubsfan (talk) 12:57, 8 June 2015 (CDT)

UWF World Heavyweight Championship

This title I think that there is no relationship with Mexico. --Campeon (talk) 10 JAN. 2016

Taz el Feroz/Sangre Guerrera

rocky lobo confirmed that there is a mistaken identity,Taz el Feroz and Sangre Guerrera are the same luchador.

Magnus / Príncipe Dragón

Hi dude. A guy created a profile for Príncipe Dragón and upload pictures of CMLL's Magnus on it. Are both wrestlers the same person? Príncipe Dragón's profile has some apuesta matches I actually can't found out, really that matches happened? First apuesta match on the profile took place at Arena Naucalpan, a FILL tournament took place that night.


Adding Categories

Hi! I have recently having trouble by adding wrestlers to new categories. I try to include them in another category but their names don't appear when I check the list. The link is there but they are not added. Besides, I recently created a page for a new championship, but it does not appear in the list of Championships either.

The category listings sometimes take a little while to update, but it looks like International Women's Championship is listed in those categories now. --Thecubsfan (talk) 10:28, 14 November 2016 (PST)

Yes, that Championship is already listed; however the Arena Nacionalista Championship has not been listed yet. It is the most recent Championship I added. Thanks for your time!

Looks like the program to update those pages hasn't been running. I've got it all caught up for now, but will need to figure out why it's not running. I'll keep working on this. --Thecubsfan (talk) 13:52, 14 November 2016 (PST)


Rules

Hello! I have question regarding with the rules. I recently interviewed El Indomable he provided the information of the profile and a couple of pictures as well. However, he asked me as a favor not posting pictures of him unmasked under one of his previous gimmicks (Cheyene), because it compromises his current character. He has not lost the mask under neither of his previous gimmicks. Personally, I am respectful with the concept of the masked luchador and contribute to keep the luchadors' Identities as a secret until they make them public. All these years I have been glad to contribute with this webpage as best as I can. The discussion of the this issue is completely unexpected for me and I would like to find the best solution.

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Hey. The policy has always been that if the luchador has ever wrestled unmasked, it's OK to both include photos of their unmasked character and their real name if publicly known. We've had this situation with Sexy Star, where we included both her unmasked photos as Dulce Poly and her real name before she gave up the mask. This has been our policy with Aerostar, whose very early unmasked character is displayed right with the rest of his images. We didn't shy away from including information and unmasked photos of Poder Mexica while he was masked as Comandante Pierroth, which probably did compromise his ability to portray himself as a 'new' character. There are other examples.

There is a guideline of not including the real name of a wrestler who has never wrestled unmasked, born not just out of respect, but also out of understanding that we would have this actual argument three hundred times over and it would be a distraction from maintaining this site. It's always been the policy that if a luchador wrestled unmasked at any point, it is fine to include the name and unmasked character. There's some logistical reasons for it - removing one name and one photo isn't on this profile isn't that much, but we'd have to remove all unmasked photos of Silver King whenever he decides to use mask, or all mentions entirely of Ricky Marvin when he was Bengala - but it's more specifically about what I want this wiki to be.

Luchawiki is about preserving the history of lucha libre as best we can. Sometimes, it's not as accurate as we'd like it to be and it's never as complete as it could be. However, we're never about removing items which are both accurate and relevant. I can sympathize with El Indomable being unhappy about a photo of wrestling unmasked on this wiki, but it did happen. I'm more concerned with keeping the people who visit the site happy that they're seeing the best possible version of what this wiki can be rather than keeping everyone mentioned happy. I respect the luchadors, but this is a site for the readers first, and I want to respect them by not hiding information from them.

I'm going to rollback the edits on the El Indomable page to the last version Flashmagic had, fix the apuesta data as you did, and lock the page for the moment. --Thecubsfan (talk) 15:16, 29 March 2017 (PDT)


UIPW

Hi I was looking at the UIPW page and it says the promotion is Underground Independent Pro Wrestling but isn't it actually Union Independent Pro Wrestling? Just wondering, cause if it is suppose to be Union Independent Pro Wrestling then the page should be renamed. Thanks for your time.--Latin915 (talk) 08:59, 14 October 2017 (PDT)

I think it's meant to be the Underground name - that's the nickname for the arena. The only places it's listed is Union are on other databases; I can't find it listed that name by the promotion. (I can find it that way in other databases, but they seem to be confusing it for a Canada? promotion that used the same initials.) It really looks like UIPW just effectively for UIPW at this point; they only refer it to by the initials. --thecubsfan (talk) 16:39, 15 October 2017 (PDT)

Yes that's where I saw the confusion in that its listed as Union Independent Pro Wrestling in other databases like you said. Ok thanks again.--Latin915 (talk) 20:59, 15 October 2017 (PDT)

Chile wrestlers

Hi a user named Perseo.historia created the page Chile wrestlers. If you look at the page, I'm not sure what the user was going for with the page but there is already a category for Chilean wrestlers. So I would file this page as nominated for deletion. Thanks for your time. --Latin915 (talk) 14:08, 16 June 2018 (PDT)

Perseo contacted me few days ago asking me about how to upload information here, he is still learning. He does not know how to upload pictures or working the other tools. I am not sure what is he trying to do if either creating a category or a new profile.

Tunderman (talk) 22:30, 16 June 2018 (PDT)

Fugitivo del futuro

Someone created this page: Fugitivo del futuro. I'm not familiar with this luchador if you want to check it out. Also because the page isn't well done. Missing Bio, an image etc. Thanks. --Latin915 (talk) 13:27, 28 June 2018 (PDT)

El pocho

Hi a user named Goldeneraluchatees created this page: El pocho. I'm not familiar with this luchador if you want to check it out. Also because the page isn't well done and the image on the page doesn't look real. Thanks. --Latin915 (talk) 02:13, 19 July 2018 (PDT)

I've never heard about him either, and I think this guy could be fake. But I will try to find something. Tunderman (talk) 07:13, 19 July 2018 (PDT)

He is real he was also a referee in Tijuana. Tunderman (talk) 11:21, 19 July 2018 (PDT)

Fake accounts and spam

If you look at the New user creation log there is a lot of fake accounts created recently. Probably one person who creates them for when one gets blocked they can just use the other ones.

All these fake accounts lead to all the spam being created now multiple times a day as seen in the Deletion log.

So maybe you should consider suspending new user creation for the time being til a solution can be found. Just a suggestion. I don't know if it's possible but at this point with the number of spam pages & fake accounts now occurring so frequently then maybe you should consider it. Thanks for your time. --Latin915 (talk) 03:10, 12 August 2018 (PDT)

Ray

The page for Ray is protected. When you get a chance if you could add her obituary date and add her to the Deceased wrestlers category. Thanks. --Latin915 (talk) 12:59, 31 August 2018 (PDT)

Alex Segura / King Star Tiger

Hi my friend. I noted that recently unmasked AULL wrestler King Star Tiger is Indy/Ecatepec wrestler Alex Segura. Before become King Star Tiger, he wrestled as masked Oveja Negra, and unmasked Alex Segura at same time. He declared to Más Lucha that his son is wrestling as King Star Tiger Jr.. There's an Alex Segura Jr. wrestling on indy circuit, perhaps Alex Segura Jr./King Star Tiger Jr. are also the same person? I added some data to the profile, but I hope you can do something to fix that pages. I think apuesta matches from Alex Segura are currently King Star Tiger and not Pantera I, starting from dates these matches took place. Victor Nava is Pantera's name, should we add his real name to the profile? -- Mike09 (talk) 18:00, 6 September 2018 (PDT)

Thanks. We don't have a mask loss for Pantera I yet so I'll leave his real name off. I've made the other changes to Alex Segura/King Star Tiger. --thecubsfan (talk) 10:49, 7 September 2018 (PDT)

Shocker

Hi I don't remember if you mentioned it on your blog but what happened to Shocker's jaw? I saw him on a recent interview and was surprised at the drastic change in his look. He mentioned something about an injury and I vaguely remember him wearing head gear while wrestling. --Latin915 (talk) 03:04, 10 October 2018 (PDT)

Diamante Azul broke Shocker's jaw in a match. Shocker's had multiple surgeries to fix it. He says one of them did not go well and the jaw is stuck looking bad until he can get another. --thecubsfan (talk) 07:18, 10 October 2018 (PDT)

Wow interesting. Cool thanks. --Latin915 (talk) 14:58, 10 October 2018 (PDT)

Templates

Hey man. Recently I created two templates. The first is Template:9Team2RoundBracket, used in tournaments like NGX King of Deathmatch. Can you check out if the template have errors? The second one is Template:Disambiguation. I opted to create it in order to have a fastest way to use it in pages with disambiguations, shared identities, promotions with same name, etc. Please check out this one also to avoid issues. Thanks, greetings. -- Mike09 (talk) 09:52, 12 October 2018 (PDT)

Both look good to me. That's good work. --thecubsfan (talk) 12:16, 12 October 2018 (PDT)

Jesus Silva Hernandez

After you unlocked the page, the user just did the same thing 10 years later if you want to check it out.

Thanks for your time. --Latin915 (talk) 20:08, 19 August 2019 (PDT)

Dr. Karonte

Today Dr. Karonte passed away, but the question is which of all? Several, Facebook pages said it was Dr. Karonte (Manuel Almanza), but many of them mixed pictures of him and Dr. Karonte I which must be Caristico's father. Even MásLucha TV got the wrong person. Do you know which of all Dr. Karontes passed away and check if the infomartion of both is correct in their respective profiles, because I think these profiles' information is mixed up. For this reason, I do not know how to update de info. --Tunderman (talk) 17:14, 26 August 2019 (PDT)