Talk:Mexican National Light Heavyweight Championship
The most recent title defense against Pierroth Jr. was Mosco Pierroth, not unmasked fat Pierroth.--Robert 16:33, 31 March 2006 (CST)
This thread claims Vangelis is the current champion, but we don't have a date, location or any other confirmation. --thecubsfan 21:14, 5 May 2007 (EDT)
Was the Vangelis win ever confirmed? I don't see why Dandy could job his National Title to a guy that wrestles part-time and isn't near his level.--Robert 20:47, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
I got my info from an email group i'm involved in that follows title histories. I wouldn't have posted it had I not believed it was legit.--JT179 7 May 2007 (EDT)
I'm on the same mailing list but it'd still be nice to have an actual source. I have all four major magazines from that time period and none of them mention the change or such a match ever taking place in the lineups section.--Robert 20:57, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
Luchas 2000 edits
renumbering
I don't want to redo the whole page to add Chucho Anaya as the first reign, at least not without a year or a date, but it's probably accurate. --thecubsfan (talk) 13:52, 12 May 2016 (PDT)
I found this: Chucho Anaya is Jesus Anaya. CMLL has he became the first ever National Light Heavyweight Champion by defeating Black Guzmán in finals of a long tournament to decide the inaugural champion. That occurred on September, 1942 at EMLL 9th Anniversario show. [1] This other link has the exact date as September 18, 1942[2], this has September 23[3], and Wikipedia has September 25, 1942 (citing Súper Luchas) [4].
Well, I'm more used to renumbering now (though an automated way of doing it would be better). Box Y Lucha lists it as September 23rd so I'll go with that.
Box Y Lucha 905 history:
- Chucho Anaya
- Black Guzman
- Gorila Ramos
- Tarzan Lopez
- Black Guzman
- Tarzan Lopez
- Cavernario Galindo
- Enrique Llanes
- Tarzan Lopez
- Espectro
- Ruben Juarez
- Ray Mendoza
- Raul Reyes
- Alfonso Dantes
- Espanto I
- El Santo
- Mil Mascaras
- El Nazi
- Alfonso Dantes
This magazine was published in 1970 but is missing the most reigns. Perhaps the series is a reprint from a few years prior? The Espanto title reigns are missing.
2nd Cavernario Galindo reign
Zas! magazine has Cavernario Galindo defending this title in 1952, a period where no champ is known (and our history gets very funky.) Not going to add without out more information on when Galindo won the title but seems likely he did. --Thecubsfan (talk) 13:22, 30 January 2021 (PST)
2nd Enrique Vera Reign
We've had it as 1979.11.30, but that's clearly not right - Wagner defends the title against Solitario in Puebla on that date instead. Halcon 405 has a list of title changes (dates, not locations) and doesn't list Vera as a champion in 1979. Lucha 2000 has it as 1980.11.30, which would make more sense. Maybe I'll be able to confirm it by the en of this month. --Thecubsfan (talk) 19:06, 2 March 2021 (PST)
