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What is the Gran Alterntiva Tournament? Who's won in previous years?
[[CMLL]] ([[Mexico City]]) occasionally holds a tournament to highlight promising young wrestlers, called the Gran Alterntiva tournament. The tournament creates 8 or 16 teams of undercard wrestlers with higher profile legends who match them in tecnico/rudo stytle but usually don't team together. The teams meet in a typical single elimination single fall tournament over one or two shows. The winning young wrestler typically gets a reward of being spotlighted in some extra way.
 
CMLL (Mexico City) occasionally holds a tournament to highlight promising young wrestlers, called the Gran Alterntiva tournament. The tournament creates 8 or 16 teams of undercard wrestlers with higher profile legends who match them in tecnico/rudo stytle but usually don't team together. The teams meet in a typical single elimination single fall tournament over one or two shows. The winning young wrestler typically gets a reward of being spotlighted in some extra way.


As far as I've been able to find, these are the past Gran Alterntiva Tournaments.
As far as I've been able to find, these are the past Gran Alterntiva Tournaments.
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|Had a better future?
|Had a better future?
|-
|-
|xx/xx/95
|[[xx/xx/95]]
|[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] and [[Astro Rey Jr.]]
|[[Dr. Wagner Jr.]] and [[Astro Rey Jr.]]
|Yes
|Yes
|-
|-
|06/07/96
|[[06/07/96]]
|[[Bestia Salvaje]] and [[Chicago Express]]   
|[[Bestia Salvaje]] and [[Chicago Express]]   
|No
|No
|-
|-
|11/15/96  
|[[11/15/96]]
|[[Emilio Charles Jr.]] and [[Rey Bucanero]]  
|[[Emilio Charles Jr.]] and [[Rey Bucanero]]  
|Yes
|Yes
|-
|-
|07/14/98  
|[[07/14/98]]
|[[Emilio Charles Jr.]] and [[Tony Rivera]]   
|[[Emilio Charles Jr.]] and [[Tony Rivera]]   
|No
|No
|-
|-
|04/02/99
|[[04/02/99]]
|[[Blue Panther]] and [[Ultimo Guerrero]]
|[[Blue Panther]] and [[Ultimo Guerrero]]
|Yes
|Yes
|-
|-
|12/17/99
|[[12/17/99]]
|[[Felino]] and [[Tigre Blanco]]
|[[Felino]] and [[Tigre Blanco]]
|No
|No
|-
|-
|08/14/01
|[[08/14/01]]
|[[Olimpico]] and [[Sicodelcio Jr.]]
|[[Olimpico]] and [[Sicodelcio Jr.]]
|No
|No
|-
|-
|01/01/03
|[[01/01/03]]
|[[Villano IV]] and [[Alan Stone]]
|[[Villano IV]] and [[Alan Stone]]
|No
|No
|-
|-
|08/20/04
|[[08/20/04]]
|[[El Hijo Del Santo]] and [[Mistico]]
|[[El Hijo Del Santo]] and [[Mistico]]
|Yes
|Yes
|-
|-
|07/01/05
|[[07/01/05]]
|[[Atlantis]] and [[La Mascara]]
|[[Atlantis]] and [[La Mascara]]
|Too Soon To Tell
|Too Soon To Tell
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Two seperate tournaments this year.
Two seperate tournaments this year.


The first (which [http://www.prowrestlinghistory.com ProWrestlingHistory.com] incorrectly credits to [[1997]]) happened on 06/07/96.
The first (which [http://www.prowrestlinghistory.com ProWrestlingHistory.com] incorrectly credits to [[1997]]) happened on [[06/07/96]].


<pre>Bestia Salvaje/Chicago Express-
<pre>Bestia Salvaje/Chicago Express-
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==[[1998]]==
==[[1998]]==


Emilio Charles Jr and Tony Rivera beat Bestia Salvaje and Guerrero De La Muerte to win the tournament on 7/14/98, en route to building up hair/hair matches for the younger rivals, which Tony won.
[[Emilio Charles Jr.]] and [[Tony Rivera]] beat [[Bestia Salvaje]] and [[Guerrero De La Muerte]] to win the tournament on 7/14/98, en route to building up hair/hair matches for the younger rivals, which Tony won.


==[[1999]]==
==[[1999]]==
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Apolo Dantes/Karolff Lagarde Jr.-</pre>
Apolo Dantes/Karolff Lagarde Jr.-</pre>


Reward: Panther was enthused with the victory and talked about Ultimo joining his Panther/Black Warrior/Dr. Wagner faction. Ultimo Guerrero's reward was three weeks in a row in the main event of Arena Mexico. The [http://www.angelfire.com/il/diaban/041199.html first] [http://www.angelfire.com/il/diaban/041899.html two] weeks were Giant Silva handicap matches. The third was a Wagner/Scorpio/Ultimo vs Negro/Niebla/Tinieblas Jr. of no particular merit to Ultimo
Reward: [[Blue Panther]] was enthused with the victory and talked about Ultimo joining his Panther/[[Black Warrior]]/[[Dr. Wagner]] faction. [[Ultimo Guerrero]]'s reward was three weeks in a row in the main event of Arena Mexico. The [http://www.angelfire.com/il/diaban/041199.html first] [http://www.angelfire.com/il/diaban/041899.html two] weeks were Giant Silva handicap matches. The third was a Wagner/Scorpio/Ultimo vs Negro/Niebla/Tinieblas Jr. of no particular merit to Ultimo


Some articles about Ultimo's win here imply Ultimo gets a NWA Middleweight Title Shot the third week, but I believe that came from an unrelated Cibernetico. One could say he rode the wave of one tournament success to win another, but they weren't directly related.
Some articles about Ultimo's win here imply Ultimo gets a [[NWA Middleweight Championship]] the third week, but I believe that came from an unrelated [[cibernetico]]. One could say he rode the wave of one tournament success to win another, but they weren't directly related.


(Additional info from [http://mx.geocities.com/satanicomansonlucha/luchadores/ultguerrft.htm Satanico's Ultimo Guerrero bio], and [http://www.angelfire.com/il/diaban/Main.html La Esquina del Dolor]))
(Additional info from [http://mx.geocities.com/satanicomansonlucha/luchadores/ultguerrft.htm Satanico's [[Ultimo Guerrero]] bio], and [http://www.angelfire.com/il/diaban/Main.html La Esquina del Dolor]))


The second tournament was on 12/17/99. It was also a 16 team tournament, though I could not find records for some of the one round and out particpants.
The second tournament was on [[12/17/99]]. It was also a 16 team tournament, though I could not find records for some of the one round and out particpants.


<pre>Ringo Mendoza/Ricky Marvin-----
<pre>Ringo Mendoza/Ricky Marvin-----
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([http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/canz/20010828lucha.htm CANZ] also recapped this show and arguably had a better grip on what was going on. The tape of this also at [http://www.wrestleholicsvideos.com/cmll/mx0138.htm WHV].)
([http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/canz/20010828lucha.htm CANZ] also recapped this show and arguably had a better grip on what was going on. The tape of this also at [http://www.wrestleholicsvideos.com/cmll/mx0138.htm WHV].)


Reward: Psicodelico got a semi-main in Arena Mexico, which confused the heck out of me when I watched this show for the first time.
Reward: [[Psicodelico Jr.]] got a semi-main in Arena Mexico.


==[[2003]]==
==[[2003]]==


Villano IV and Alan Stone defeated Mascara Ano 2000 and Sagrado
[[Villano IV]] and [[Alan Stone]] defeated [[Mascara Ano 2000]] and [[Sagrado]]


Reward: Again, I'm not sure. Nothing in particular.
Reward: Again, I'm not sure. Nothing in particular.
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==[[2004]]==
==[[2004]]==


This tournament took place 08/20/04
This tournament took place [[08/20/04]]


<pre>El Santo/Mistico--------------
<pre>El Santo/Mistico--------------
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Mascara Sagrada/Sagrado-------</pre>
Mascara Sagrada/Sagrado-------</pre>


Mistico was elevated to the main event as a result.
[[Mistico]] was elevated to the main event as a result.


==[[2005]]==
==[[2005]]==

Revision as of 14:17, 15 August 2005

CMLL (Mexico City) occasionally holds a tournament to highlight promising young wrestlers, called the Gran Alterntiva tournament. The tournament creates 8 or 16 teams of undercard wrestlers with higher profile legends who match them in tecnico/rudo stytle but usually don't team together. The teams meet in a typical single elimination single fall tournament over one or two shows. The winning young wrestler typically gets a reward of being spotlighted in some extra way.

As far as I've been able to find, these are the past Gran Alterntiva Tournaments.

Summary Of Winners

Date Winners Had a better future?
xx/xx/95 Dr. Wagner Jr. and Astro Rey Jr. Yes
06/07/96 Bestia Salvaje and Chicago Express No
11/15/96 Emilio Charles Jr. and Rey Bucanero Yes
07/14/98 Emilio Charles Jr. and Tony Rivera No
04/02/99 Blue Panther and Ultimo Guerrero Yes
12/17/99 Felino and Tigre Blanco No
08/14/01 Olimpico and Sicodelcio Jr. No
01/01/03 Villano IV and Alan Stone No
08/20/04 El Hijo Del Santo and Mistico Yes
07/01/05 Atlantis and La Mascara Too Soon To Tell

1994

Pro Wrestling History.com lists the 1997 edition of this tournament as the 4th yearly occurance. While I've been able to find results for 1996 and now 1995, I have no information about the the 1994 tournament.

No one's been able to find any info about 1994, and there's contradictory evidence that 1995 was the first one, so I'll assume there was no 1994 until other proof is offered.

1995

Commentary for the 1995 indicated it was the first tournament.

(Older stars are always listed before ) 

Dr. Wagner Jr./Astro Rey Jr.-----
                                 |Wagner/Astro-------
Mocho Cota/Guerrero De La Muerte-                    |
                                                     |Wagner/Astro-
[[Atlantis]]/Atlantico---------------                    |             |
                                 |Atlantis/Atlantico-              |
MS-1/MS-1 Jr.--------------------                                  |
                                                                   |Wagner/Astro-
Bestia Salvaje/Corazon Salvaje---                                  |
                                 |Bestia/Corazon-----              |
Emilio Charles Jr/Halcon Negro---                    |             |
                                                     |King/Shocker-
Silver King/Shocker--------------                    |
                                 |King/Shocker-------
Pierroth Jr./Chiacgo Express-----

Reward: Main event trios matches for the finalists, semi-main event trios matches for the semifinalists.

1996

Two seperate tournaments this year.

The first (which ProWrestlingHistory.com incorrectly credits to 1997) happened on 06/07/96. 

Bestia Salvaje/Chicago Express-
                               |Salvaje/Chicago----
Dos Caras/Bronco---------------                    |
                                                   |Salvaje/Chicago----
El Hijo Del Santo/Olimpus------                    |                   |
                               |Santo/Olimpus------                    |
Felino/Astro Rey Jr.-----------                                        |
                                                                       |Salvaje/Chicago
Rambo/Guerrero De La Muerte----                                        |
                               |Rambo/Muerte-------                    |
El Brazo/Olimpis---------------                    |                   |
                                                   |Atlantis/Atlantico-
Atlantis/Atlantico-------------                    |
                               |Atlantis/Atlantico-
Apolo Dantes/Rey Bucanero------

Reward: Chicago Express wrestled in some Arena Mexico semi main events, which led to a NWA LH Title match against El Dandy.

The second tournament started in November. This tournament is diferent from the ones that followed it, because a qualification round led into the tournament. 20 young wrestlers were split into 4 divisions for round robin matchups. Top two from each division moved on to the normal tag team tournamnet, only being assigned partners in that stage.

According to this recap, the divisions particpants were:

  1. Mascara Magica, Astro Rey Jr, Principle Frankie, Kung Fu Jr., Filoso
  2. Rey Bucanero, Atlantico, Alacran, Ultraman Jr., America
  3. Mr. Niebla, Jaguar, Brandon, Linx, Ultimatum
  4. Olimpico, Karloff Lagarde Jr., Olimpus, Corazon Salvaje, Mano Negro Jr.

The tournament itself proceeded like this: 

Felino/Astro Rey Jr.---------
                             |Satanico/Karolff-
Satanico/Karolff Lagarde Jr.-                  |
                                               |Emilio/Rey---
Lizmark Jr./Jaguar-----------                  |             |
                             |Emilio/Rey-------              |
Emilio Charles/Rey Bucanero--                                |
                                                             |Emilio/Rey
Hector Garza/Mr. Niebla------                                |
                             |Garza/Niebla-----              |
Atlantis/Atlantico-----------                  |             |
                                               |Garza/Niebla-
Rayo de Jalisco/Olimpico-----                  |
                             |Dos/Magica-------
Dos Caras/Mascara Magica-----

Reward: Rey got apparently got semi-main in Arena Mexico for this match. Which is fair, since the main event was Santo turning rudo. Rey got a few semimains after.

1998

Emilio Charles Jr. and Tony Rivera beat Bestia Salvaje and Guerrero De La Muerte to win the tournament on 7/14/98, en route to building up hair/hair matches for the younger rivals, which Tony won.

1999

There were actually two tournaments held in the '99 year, though the last one was late enough in the year to almost considered in the 2000 version.

According to the this recap, the first tournament on 04/02/99 went like this. 

Blue Panther/Ultimo Guerrero-----
                                 |Panther/Ultimo---
Fuerza Guerrera/Rey Bucanero-----                  |
                                                   |Panther/Ultimo---
Emilio Charles Jr./Tony Rivera---                  |                 |
                                 |Emilio/Tony------                  |
Satanico/Violencia---------------                                    |
				                                     |Panther/Ultimo
Mr. Niebla/Atlantico-------------                                    |
                                 |Niebla/Atlantico-                  |
Felino/Starman-------------------                  |                 |
                                                   |Niebla/Atlantico-
Shocker/Astro Rey Jr.------------                  |
                                 |Shocker/Astro----
Apolo Dantes/Karolff Lagarde Jr.-

Reward: Blue Panther was enthused with the victory and talked about Ultimo joining his Panther/Black Warrior/Dr. Wagner faction. Ultimo Guerrero's reward was three weeks in a row in the main event of Arena Mexico. The first two weeks were Giant Silva handicap matches. The third was a Wagner/Scorpio/Ultimo vs Negro/Niebla/Tinieblas Jr. of no particular merit to Ultimo

Some articles about Ultimo's win here imply Ultimo gets a NWA Middleweight Championship the third week, but I believe that came from an unrelated cibernetico. One could say he rode the wave of one tournament success to win another, but they weren't directly related.

(Additional info from Satanico's Ultimo Guerrero bio, and La Esquina del Dolor))

The second tournament was on 12/17/99. It was also a 16 team tournament, though I could not find records for some of the one round and out particpants. 

Ringo Mendoza/Ricky Marvin-----
                               |Ringo/Ricky---
Apolo Dantes/Alan Stone--------               |
                                              |Felino/Tigre--
Felino/Tigre Blanco------------               |              |
                               |Felino/Tigre--               |
Mascara Ano 2000/Sangre Azteca-                              |
                                                             |Felino/Tigre
Scorpio Jr./Fugaz--------------                              |
                               |Scorpio/Fugaz-               |
Lizmark Jr./Sombra de Plata----               |              |
                                              |Scorpio/Fugaz-
Negro Casas/Flecha-------------               |
                               |Negro/Flecha--
Bestia Salvaje/Moto Cross------

(Info culled from Highspots's Sangre Azteca and Ricky Marvin bios. Parts of this tournament can be found on tape at WrestleholicsVideo.com)

Reward: Nothing in particular.

2001

I watched this show and wrote down the full brackets! What a brilliant man I was three years ago! What happened? 

Quarterfinal            Semifinal            Final
Blue Panther/Virus---
                     |--Panther/Virus-------
Mr. Niebla/Alan Stone                       |
                                            |--Olimpico/Psicodelico
Olimpico/Psicodelico-                       |                      |
                     |--Olimpico/Psicodelico                       |
Gran Markus Jr./Dr. X                                              |
                                                                   |--Olimpico/Psicodelico
Atlantis/Volador Jr.-                                              |
                     |--Atlantis/Volador Jr.                       |
Mascara Ano 2000/Enemigo Publico            |                      |
                                            |--Warrior/Azteca------
Black Warrior/Sangre Azteca                 |
                     |--Warrior/Azteca------
Black Tiger/Tiger Blanco

(CANZ also recapped this show and arguably had a better grip on what was going on. The tape of this also at WHV.)

Reward: Psicodelico Jr. got a semi-main in Arena Mexico.

2003

Villano IV and Alan Stone defeated Mascara Ano 2000 and Sagrado

Reward: Again, I'm not sure. Nothing in particular.

2004

This tournament took place 08/20/04 

El Santo/Mistico--------------
                              |Santo/Mistico----
Misterioso I/Misterioso II----                  |
                                                |Santo/Mistico-
Atlantis/Volador Jr.----------                  |              |
                              |Atlantis/Volador-               |
Perro Aguayo Jr/Sangre Azteca-                                 |
                                                               |Santo/Mistico
Ultimo Guerrero/Dr. X---------                                 |
                              |Guerrero/X-------               |
Ultimo Dragon/Neutron---------                  |              |
                                                |Guerrero/X----
Shocker/Alan Stone------------                  |
                              |Shocker/Alan-----
Mascara Sagrada/Sagrado-------

Mistico was elevated to the main event as a result.

2005

The 2005 tournament was held on July 1st. 

Universo 2000 & Dr. X --------
                              |Universo/X -------
Bronco & Texano Jr.-----------                   |
                                                 |Wagner/Misterioso-
Dr. Wagner Jr. & Misterioso---                   |                  |
                              |Wagner/Misterioso-                   |
Pierroth & Nitro--------------                                      |
                                                                    |Atlantis/Mascara
Atlantis & La Mascara---------                                      |
                              |Atlantis/Mascara--                   |
Damien 666 & Apocalipsis------                   |                  |
                                                 |Atlantis/Mascara--
Ultimo Guerrero/Sangre Azteca-                   |
                              |Ultimo/Sangre-----
Negro Casas/Maximo------------

The finalists got to do a rematch for the main event the following week.

(Thanks to Rob on filling in a lot of blanks.)

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