Talk:Violento Jack

I think we need to create a seperate category for 'idiots'. Just saying...--Robert 22:37, 16 September 2007 (EDT)

whats your fn´problem against extreme wrestling?

My problem is the Wiki is not for guys who haven't been trained and are only working shows b/c they are willing to fall through lighttubes and bleed for 20 fans. Trust me, if the Wiki was just mine your profile would be gone just as fast as Aero Boy and Violent Jack (great name by the way). Go start a czwrules wiki or something and put your bios up there.--Robert 00:35, 17 September 2007 (EDT)

violento jack, and aeroboy, were trained by Crazy Boy and Feroz in X-Law kids schools that was mannaged by Ernesto Ocampo they are not only a backyarders who use lightbulbs they had been worked in promotions like AULL and AAA

Crazzy Boy and Feroz barely have 15 years in wrestling COMBINED and thus have no right to be training guys. Both of the idiots you mentioned have never "officially" worked AAA or AULL. They worked Arena Lopez Mateos on the foristas show which included a ton of backyarders and was not an AULL show. They worked the dark match on an AAA show once in Tulancingo only because it was a favor to Crazzy Boy and oh yeah... they blew every spot they tried from watching CZW tapes.

They, along with you I'm sure, only work one arena because that's the only place that will book them. You guys aren't real wrestlers, you are fans of wrestling who think it's so easy to do and the fact anyone lets you in the ring is an insult to wrestlers all over the world. The fact Aero Boy/Violent Jack only work against each other in hardcore matches all the time on shows they don't get paid for says all you need to know about their skill level and brains.--Robert 07:21, 17 September 2007 (EDT)

oh yeah mr autority of wiki you only allow PROFESIONAL wrestlers like this one http://www.luchawiki.org/index.php?title=Poncho_de_Nigris lol

I don't think Poncho should be the wiki either. Did you just compare yourselves to Poncho though? At least you're aware you are as pathetic as he is. Oh no wait... he's better than you. He got PAID to wrestle and wrestled in front of more than 20 fans.

I just hope you guys have enough brain cells left when you grow up to realize what idiots you were as kids and try to do some good by talking young luchadors out of this bullshit known as 'xtreme wrestling' or us normal people... 'stupidity'.--Robert 19:04, 17 September 2007 (EDT)

what kind of styles of wrestling do u like?, the wrestling (or lucha... i know that u speak spanish like me) is constantly in evolution, and now in Mexico the extreme promotions (NGX, OLX, UXW, NEXT, X-LAW -well x-law is now dissapeared-) are geting more popular, the only point against that is the barely training in his elements but with time and encourage it will be become in a interesting modallity... Nothing personal Robert you had your opinions i have mine ;)

- At some point, ultra-violence wrestling stops being lucha libre. The idea of this matches seems to be doing US and Japanese style. Even beyond the blood and the weapons, having seven different trademark moves is clear giveaway, because that's such an US indy "get all my stuff in" thing.

If these same guys were doing the same matches, wearing the same outfits and using the same names in Albuquerque, New Mexico instead of Tulancingo, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. This profile would be considered non-lucha libre and deleted. The only thing that's keeping this profile considered is the guy's location.

If you look at the Rules, and I hope everyone does at some point, you'll see all articles are supposed to be related to lucha libre promotions. Like I said earlier, I'm not sure this just isn't actually a profile of a worker in a far far southern US indy promotion.

I don't want to start having to rule on what is and isn't lucha libre, because it seems like a whole lot of wasted time. But, I think we've reached the point (or past it) where ultra-violence wrestlers have outlived their usefulness. I would advise not adding any more unless they also regularly work normal lucha libre style, and they work more than one arena.

--thecubsfan 16:52, 19 September 2007 (EDT)