Axel: Difference between revisions
Tinieblast (talk | contribs) |
(→Notes) |
||
(49 intermediate revisions by 19 users not shown) | |||
Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
== Profile == | == Profile == | ||
{{bioFields| | {{bioFields| | ||
|image= | |image=Axxxel.jpg | ||
|name= | |name=Axel | ||
|realName= | |realName= | ||
|nicknames= | |nicknames= El Nieto de/del El Santo, Nieto de la Leyenda, Tercera Generación del Santo | ||
|nameHistory=Goldman (1993), Rocker I (IWRG, 1998/1999 | |nameHistory=Goldman (1993), Sagrado (1998), Rocker I (IWRG, 1998/1999), El Plateado (2004 - El Hijo del Santo sued), El Nieto de Santo (2004 - El Hijo del Santo sued), Axel El Nieto de El Santo (1998 - 2013), Axel (2013 - ) | ||
|family= | |family=[[Santo]] (grandfather), [[Huracan Ramirez]] (father in law), [[Jimmy Guzman|Jimmy]], [[Chuy Guzman|Chuy]] and [[Black Guzmán]] (grand uncles), [[Rocker II]] (brother), [[Matemático]] and [[Huracán Jr.|Audaz]] (cousins-in-law), [[El Hijo del Santo]] (uncle); see [[The Family of El Santo]] | ||
|maestro=[[Shadito Cruz]], [[Karloff Lagarde]], [[Rodolfo Ruíz]], [[Brazo Cibernetico]], [[Huracan Ramirez]], [[Satanico]], [[Búfalo Negro Jr.]], [[Tony Salazar]] | |maestro=[[Shadito Cruz]], [[Karloff Lagarde]], [[Rodolfo Ruíz]], [[Brazo Cibernetico]], [[Huracan Ramirez]], [[Satanico]], [[Búfalo Negro Jr.]], [[Tony Salazar]] | ||
|birthdate=[[October 28]], [[1971]] | |birthdate=[[October 28]], [[1971]] | ||
|obituarydate= | |obituarydate= | ||
|debut= | |debut=[[August 24]], [[2003]] - Huamantla Tlaxcala as El Plateado | ||
[[July 25]], [[2004]] - Durango City as El Nieto de El Santo | |||
[[April 4]], [[2008]] at Arena Mexico | |||
|lostmaskto= | |lostmaskto= | ||
|height=5 '9"/ | |height=5 '9"/ 178 cms | ||
|weight=189 lbs | |weight=189 lbs / 86 kg | ||
|signatureMoves=[[La de Plata]], [[Boomerang]], [[Plancha]] with [[Tornillo]], [[Tijera fuera del ring]] | |signatureMoves=[[La de Plata]], [[Boomerang]], [[Plancha]] with [[Tornillo]], [[Tijera fuera del ring]] | ||
|titles= Third Force Olympic Wrestling National Champion at 15, [[FILL Middleweight Championship]] | |titles= Third Force Olympic Wrestling National Champion at 15, [[FILL Middleweight Championship]] | ||
}} | }} | ||
== Notes == | |||
Axel is the first of 25 grandsons of Santo, but his attempts to name himself as such (El Nieto de Santo) has caused a split in the Santo family. [[El Hijo del Santo]] claims to hold all related Santo trademarks, as he was the only one of Santo's sons who wrestled. | |||
With control of the Santo of name, [[El Hijo del Santo]] sued Axel to stop using the Nieto name - Hijo obviously wants to save the name for at least one of his sons ([[Santo Jr.]], who never had his heart in the business and only ever appeared on his father's shows), but has also claimed that Axel isn't great enough to carry on the high standards of the Santo name. Axel disagrees, and there are members of the Santo family that agree with him (and disagree with [[Hijo del Santo]]'s handling of the names), but [[Hijo del Santo]]'s right to control the Santo name and trademarks has held up to this point. | |||
Axel still tries to make that connection to Santo as clear as legally possible, wearing a similar mask and being promoted as the grandson of Santo, at times using Santo's birth name instead of the trademarked identity. He's still marketed as Nieto de Santo, even if he can't use the name. | |||
[[Hijo del Santo]]'s standing in the industry has kept | Axel was very close to his father-in-law, [[Huracan Ramirez]], before his death. They had a shared history of legal entanglements about what names they could use. | ||
[[Hijo del Santo]]'s standing in the industry has kept Axel out of major companies. It was likely no coincidence Axel was rumored to come into CMLL soon after [[Hijo del Santo]] split. He eventually did make his [[CMLL]] return on [[April 4]], [[2008]]. Axel continued to book himself as an independent while working with CMLL, which CMLL appears to frown on. After Axel worked a [[Guadalajara]] lucha libre festival in November which was running against the weekly Guadalajara show there, CMLL stopped using Axel (though they never told him why, or even that they were no longer using him.) | |||
== Luchas de apuestas record == | == Luchas de apuestas record == | ||
{{astart}} | {{astart}} | ||
{{aline|[[2004 | {{aline|[[2004]]/[[November 7|11/07]]|mask|[[Axel]]|[[Black Shadow III]]|[[Arena Coliseo]] - [[Monterrey]], [[Nuevo León]]}} | ||
{{aline|[[ | {{aline|[[2005]]/[[November 25|11/25]]|hairs|[[Axel]]|[[Aristoteles]]|[[Plaza de Toros Altamirano]] - [[Altamirano City]], [[Guerrero]]}} | ||
{{aend|}} | {{aline|[[2007]]/[[October 26|10/26]]|mask|[[Axel]]|[[Peligro]]|[[Aud. Américo Villarreal Guerra]] - [[Cd. Madero]], [[Tamaulipas]]}} | ||
{{aline|[[2009]]/[[December 12|12/12]]|hair/masks (1)|[[Super Muñeco]] & [[Axel]]|[[Coco Rojo]], [[Coco Verde]] & [[Cocolores (FMLL)|Cocolores]]|Plaza Liberacion - Guadalajara, Jalisco}} | |||
{{aline|[[2009]]/[[December 17|12/17]]|mask|[[Axel]]|[[Rabioso]]|Arena Coliseo - [[Zitacuaro]], [[Michoacan]]}} | |||
{{aline|[[2016]]/[[06/18]]|hair<ref>[https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1111154945594881&id=100001011593647 Axel Heredero de Plata]</ref>|[[Axel]]|[[Arturo Gaona Jr.]]|[[Celaya]], [[Guanajuato]]}} | |||
{{aline|[[2017|17]]/[[March 19 |03/19]]|hair (1)|[[Axel]]|[[Black Silver Jr.]]| Candela Discotheque - [[Acapulco]], [[Guerrero]]}} | |||
{{aend|<b>(1)</b> Suicidas: [[Super Nova]] & [[Bobby Lee Jr.]], [[Fantasma de la Opera]] & [[Oro II]] |<b> ''' (2) ''' lucha del revés}} | |||
== Gallery == | == Gallery == | ||
<!-- Gallery Template. Repeat as many times as necessary --> | <!-- Gallery Template. Repeat as many times as necessary --> | ||
{{Gallery||name=Goldmannieto2.jpg|caption=As Goldman}} | |||
{{Gallery||name=Goldmannieto.jpg|caption=As Goldman}} | |||
{{Gallery||name=Goldmanaxx.jpg|caption=As Goldman}} | |||
{{Gallery||name=AxxelRockero.jpg|caption=As Rockero I in 1998}} | {{Gallery||name=AxxelRockero.jpg|caption=As Rockero I in 1998}} | ||
{{Gallery||name=AXELCONMASKBS3.jpg|caption=With Black Shadow III's mask}} | {{Gallery||name=AXELCONMASKBS3.jpg|caption=With Black Shadow III's mask}} | ||
{{Gallery||name=AxxelLynMay.jpg|caption=Axxel with Lyn May}} | {{Gallery||name=AxxelLynMay.jpg|caption=Axxel with Lyn May}} | ||
<br clear=all> | |||
{{Gallery|name=axxel04.jpg|caption=2006}} | {{Gallery|name=axxel04.jpg|caption=2006}} | ||
{{Gallery|name=ENDES M stico 5.jpg|caption=With Mistico}} | {{Gallery|name=ENDES M stico 5.jpg|caption=With Mistico}} | ||
{{Gallery|name=ENDES by Fernando G mez 4$7E1.jpg|caption=}} | {{Gallery|name=ENDES by Fernando G mez 4$7E1.jpg|caption=}} | ||
{{Gallery|name=ENDES_pres2b.jpg|caption=}} | |||
{{Gallery|name=Axelexpo.JPG|caption=signing autographs}} | |||
{{Gallery|name=Goldman.jpg|caption=as Goldman}} | |||
<br clear=all> | <br clear=all> | ||
{{Gallery|name= | {{Gallery|name=Pentagón la de a caballo.JPG|caption=}} | ||
{{Gallery|name= | {{Gallery|name=Axel.jpg|caption=FMLL 2009}} | ||
{{Gallery|name=Axel_el_nieto_del_santo_01.jpg|caption=Axel, Nieto de El Santo}} | |||
{{Gallery|name=89246268_10158060378957463_607051781423235072_n.jpg|caption=}} | |||
{{Gallery|name=88979312_10158060379022463_6909837475653353472_n.jpg|caption=}} | |||
[[Category:Mexican wrestlers]] | [[Category:Mexican wrestlers]] | ||
[[Category:Former AAA/PAP wrestlers]] | |||
[[Category:Former CMLL wrestlers]] | |||
[[Category:WWL wrestlers]] |
Latest revision as of 09:14, 23 October 2024
Profile
Axel | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Notes
Axel is the first of 25 grandsons of Santo, but his attempts to name himself as such (El Nieto de Santo) has caused a split in the Santo family. El Hijo del Santo claims to hold all related Santo trademarks, as he was the only one of Santo's sons who wrestled.
With control of the Santo of name, El Hijo del Santo sued Axel to stop using the Nieto name - Hijo obviously wants to save the name for at least one of his sons (Santo Jr., who never had his heart in the business and only ever appeared on his father's shows), but has also claimed that Axel isn't great enough to carry on the high standards of the Santo name. Axel disagrees, and there are members of the Santo family that agree with him (and disagree with Hijo del Santo's handling of the names), but Hijo del Santo's right to control the Santo name and trademarks has held up to this point.
Axel still tries to make that connection to Santo as clear as legally possible, wearing a similar mask and being promoted as the grandson of Santo, at times using Santo's birth name instead of the trademarked identity. He's still marketed as Nieto de Santo, even if he can't use the name.
Axel was very close to his father-in-law, Huracan Ramirez, before his death. They had a shared history of legal entanglements about what names they could use.
Hijo del Santo's standing in the industry has kept Axel out of major companies. It was likely no coincidence Axel was rumored to come into CMLL soon after Hijo del Santo split. He eventually did make his CMLL return on April 4, 2008. Axel continued to book himself as an independent while working with CMLL, which CMLL appears to frown on. After Axel worked a Guadalajara lucha libre festival in November which was running against the weekly Guadalajara show there, CMLL stopped using Axel (though they never told him why, or even that they were no longer using him.)
Luchas de apuestas record
Date | Apuesta | Winner(s) | Loser(s) | Arena and/or Place |
---|---|---|---|---|
2004/11/07 | mask | Axel | Black Shadow III | Arena Coliseo - Monterrey, Nuevo León |
2005/11/25 | hairs | Axel | Aristoteles | Plaza de Toros Altamirano - Altamirano City, Guerrero |
2007/10/26 | mask | Axel | Peligro | Aud. Américo Villarreal Guerra - Cd. Madero, Tamaulipas |
2009/12/12 | hair/masks (1) | Super Muñeco & Axel | Coco Rojo, Coco Verde & Cocolores | Plaza Liberacion - Guadalajara, Jalisco |
2009/12/17 | mask | Axel | Rabioso | Arena Coliseo - Zitacuaro, Michoacan |
2016/06/18 | hair[1] | Axel | Arturo Gaona Jr. | Celaya, Guanajuato |
17/03/19 | hair (1) | Axel | Black Silver Jr. | Candela Discotheque - Acapulco, Guerrero |
(1) Suicidas: Super Nova & Bobby Lee Jr., Fantasma de la Opera & Oro II |
Gallery