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Abismo Negro (Black Abyss)

Name	Abismo Negro (Black Abyss)
Real name	Andrés Alejandro Palomeque González
Nicknames	El Rey del Martinete (The King of the Martinete), Fiscal De Hierro La Televisión
Name history	Alex Dinamo (1984 - 86?), Pequeño Samurai (86? - ??), Samurai, Furor (CMLL), The Winner/Winner's (92 - 01/96), El Juez (96 - 97), Abismo Negro (01/97 - death)
Family	Fiscal (son)
Maestro(s)	Diablo Velazco, Ray Mendoza, Delio Soto, El Noruego
Birth date, location	July 1, 1971 - Villahermosa, Tabasco, Mexico
Obituary date	March 22, 2009, El Rosario, Sinaloa, Mexico
Debut, location	1984
Lost mask to	Super Caló - June 30, 1995 (as Winners)
Height	5'11"/180 cms
Weight	211 lbs/96 kg
Signature moves	Martinete, La Magistral, Flying Senton, Frog Splash, Huracarrana, Martinete Especial
Titles:	National Middleweight Title, National Tag Team Titles (w/ Electro Shock), 2000 Rey de Reyes, AAA Mascot Tag Team Titles (w/ Mini Abismo Negro), NWA/TNA America's X-Cup (2004) (w/ Mr. Águila, Juventud Guerrera, Héctor Garza, Heavy Metal))

Notes

Abismo Negro was a mainstay of AAA, usually a rudo in the biggest matches and often part of the some version of the Vipers. Abismo Negro actually started his major promotion career in CMLL as Furor, but jumped to AAA in it's earliest days. Before he was Abismo Negro, he was the first man in AAA to use the name Winners, a female favorite tecnico who lost his mask to Super Calo. The connection between the two characters is not publicly acknowledged, and Abismo Negro has become the much more well known character.

Abismo Negro was known as "El Rey del Martinete" due to his frequent use of banned piledrivers moves. While the martinete is more often broken up than executed, Abismo has taken out opponents with the move many times. Abismo was also frequently seen with an aerosol can and a lighter, allowing him to blow fire during this entrance and for victories.

Abismo Negro has been one of AAA's all purpose rudos, used to make whichever tecnico he works with look a little better. Besides his Vipers membership, Abismo was a major part of LLL during the peak of it's existence. Abismo teamed a lot with his mini, Mini Abismo Negro to feud with other mascot tag teams (most notably Mascara Sagrada AAA & Mascarita Sagrada 2000.) Abismo was far less successful as a tecnico.

As a representative of AAA, Abismo's appeared in TNA (during their "World X Cup" period) and worked for Japanese groups (including NOAH). Abismo Negro often appears on the morning television program Vida TV. He appeared a kind of a judge for talent contests on the show.

Abismo's biggest rival was Latin Lover. The two have not only wrestled against each other often, gotten into fights on non-AAA variety TV shows and teased mask vs hair matches. Latin's appears to be on the outside of AAA at the moment and any final match between the two went stalled. Abismo battled drug problems thru his career, and missed long stretches of recent years while dealing with them.

Abismo Negro spent 2008 and 2009 feuding with the Vipers, after they kicked him out of the group for not being around enough when they needed him. The Vipers, now led by Mr. Niebla, created a new Abismo Negro (Black Abyss) to replace him. This feud was set to climax at TripleMania, at first in a Abismo vs Niebla direct mask match, and later a match which would pit Abismo versus all the Vipers, but Abismo again started missing shows and was dropped by the company. AAA tested out using Black Abyss actually as Abismo Negro on some spot shows and, but the idea never made it to TV.

Mr. Niebla jumped back to CMLL, so when Abismo was finally brought back (after at least one false start), the feud changed to a direct rivalry with his replacement Black Abyss. Again, the feud seemed headed to a mask match at TripleMania. On the last show Abismo worked, he lost to Black Abyss by martinete in the Rey de Reyes tournament to add more to the feud.

Abismo Negro died March 22, 2009 near El Rosario, Sinaloa. He apparently drowned in a river.

In 2013 he was inducted into AAA Hall of Fame.

Notas en ESPANOL

Abismo Negro No era nuevo a las carteleras estelares en las empresas mas conocidas y lucrativas de lucha libre en mexico. Especialmente AAA, normalmente como rudo en sus luchas mas grandes y muy recordado por fanaticos de los Vipers. Abismo Negro empezo su carrera como "FUROR", fue uno de los luchadores que dieron el brinco de CMLL a AAA en sus inicios en 1993. Antes de usar el nombre de "AVISMO NEGRO" fue el primero en la AAA que uso el nombre de "WINNERS", este era muy popular con la aficion femenina y perdio la MASCARA VS SUPER CALO. La conexion ente los 2 luchadores bajo la misma identidad no se menciona popularmente puesto que ABISMO NEGRO se ha convertido en el personaje mas conocido.

Abismo Negro era llamado "el rey del martinete", ya que usaba la maniobra con frequencia, la cual es prohibidos en el pancracio mexicano. Muchas veces sus oponentes pudieron contrariar el enganche, sinembargo, ABISMO NEGRO era muy conocido por terminar sus luchas de esta manera. Tambien se le conocia por usar un encendedor y algun liquido flamable lo cual le daba la oportunidad de hacer sus entradas mucho mas espectaculares.

ABISMO NEGRO siempre fue uno de los RUDOS preferidos y mas conocidos de AAA, puesto que su trabajo normalmente hacia ver a muchos de sus contrincantes mejor de lo que en realidad eran. Ademas de su membresia de "VIPER", Abismo fue un importante miembro de la " Triple LLL" durante los dias mas importantes de las dos mencionadas facciones luchisticas. Avismo muchas veces se acompanaba de su MINI-LUCHADOR "MINI ABISMO NEGRO" con quienes compartio muchas rivalidades juntos. Mascara y Mascarita Sagrada fue quizas la mas conocida, esto en el 2001. Abismo negro nunca obtuvo popularidad como "TECNICO".

Como representante de AAA, Abismo lucho en TNA durante la copa "WORLD X CUP". Se le conocio trabajo con empresas japonesas incluyendo NOAH. Abismo solia aparecer en un programa de television en mexicoVida TV. Era el juez de un concurso de talento. Su mayor rivalidad fue contra Latin Lover. Ellos han luchado uno contra el otro in-numerables occasiones atraves de sus carreras y han peleado SHOOT en television mexicana con habla de una lucha 'MASCARA VS CABELLERA '.

"LATIN LOVER" no estaba bajo contrato en esos dias por lo cual la lucha nunca ocurrio. Abismo tuvo la lucha mas grande de su vida con las dependencias quimicas sea el alcohol o las drogas no se sabe exactamente. En sus ultimos dias hubo muchas funciones en las cuales el nunca hizo su aparicion. Abismo paso el 08 y el 09 en enemistad con los VIPERS, despues que lo sacaron del grupo tras acusaciones de no apoyar al grupo cuando se le necesitaba, los vipers los cuales ahora son liderados por Mr. Niebla, crearon un clon de ABISMO y lo llamaron "BLACK ABYSS".

La culminacion de esta rivalidad estaba marcada en el calendario y carteleras como parte de TRIPLEMANIA. Primero, se anuncio una lucha avismo vs Mr niebla 'MASCARA vs MASCARA' y despes una lucha de avismo contra todos los vipers. Avismo otravez falto a presentarse a muchas llamadas luchisticas por lo cual fue retirado de las filas luchisticas como empleado. AAA uso a "black abyss" como "avismo negro" pero la idea nuca se prolongo a la television ni el guion escrito.

Mr. Niebla regreso al CMLL por lo tanto cuando avismo regreso a los entarimados la rivalidad ya no podia existir. Su rivalidad cambio directamente contra su clon de funciones anteriores "BLACK ABYSS" y aun otravez la rivalidad aparecia dar pistas que culminaria en una lucha en TRIPLEMANIA. La ultima vez que se le miro trabajar un encordado perdio contra "BLACK ABYSS" via martinete. Esto se presencio en el torneo de "rey de reyes" lo cual se suponia aumentaria mas la rivalidad.

Abismo Negro Murio repentina y misteriosamente el 22 de marzo del ano 2009 cerca de "EL ROSARIO" SINALOA, MEX. Aparentemente victima de ahogarse en un rio local.

Lucha de Apuestas Record

Date	Apuesta	Winner(s)	Loser(s)	Arena and/or Place
??/??/??	hair (1)	Abismo Negro	Stuka Jr.	unknown
??/??/??	hair	Furor	El Noruego	unknown
??/??/??	hair	Winners	El Migra	Ciudad Juárez
95/06/18	mask	Winners	Marabunta	Auditorio Rio Nilo - Tonala, Jalisco
95/06/30	mask	Super Caló	Winners	Centro de Convenciones - Madero, Tamaulipas
??/??/??	hair	Abismo Negro	Yanko	Gimnasio Muncipal Josue Neri Santos - Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua
00/01/30	hair (2)	Abismo Negro	The Panther	Arena Solidaridad - Monterrey, Nuevo León
01/09/07	hair (3)	Abismo Negro	El Alebrije	Auditorio de Tijuana - Tijuana, Baja California
2007/??/??	hair	Abismo Negro	La Fiera	Fut Rap - Nuevo Laredo
(1) Hair vs. Hair between masked wrestlers (2) Hair vs. Hair between masked wrestlers; (3) Hair vs. Hair between masked wrestlers

Gallery

as Winners in 1992

after losing his mask

Furor

unmasked

as Abismo Negro

Older

On vida TV

Martinete To Latin Lover

With His Fans on AAA Tour

Martinete Special To Black Abyss

Abismo in Cabo San Lucas, January 17, 2009

as Winners with Rey

with Cibernético & Kick Boxer

Martinete Special To El Oriental

Video Clips

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 |realName=Andrés Alejandro Palomeque González
 |nicknames=El Rey del Martinete (The King of the Martinete), Fiscal De Hierro La Televisión
-|nameHistory=Alex Dinamo (1984 - 86?), Pequeño Samurai (86? - ??), Samurai, Furor (CMLL), The Winner/Winner's (92 - 01/97), Abismo Negro (01/97 - death)
+|nameHistory=Alex Dinamo (1984 - 86?), Pequeño Samurai (86? - ??), Samurai, Furor (CMLL), The Winner/Winner's (92 - 01/96), El Juez (96 - 97), Abismo Negro (01/97 - death)
-|family=none
+|family=[[Fiscal]] (son)
 |maestro=[[Diablo Velazco]], [[Ray Mendoza]], [[Delio Soto]], [[El Noruego]]
 |birthdate=[[July 1]], [[1971]] - [[Villahermosa]], [[Tabasco]], [[Mexico]]
@@ Line 17: / Line 17: @@
 |weight=211 lbs/96 kg
 |signatureMoves=[[Martinete]], [[La Magistral]], [[Flying Senton]], [[Frog Splash]], [[Huracarrana]], [[Double Arm Piledriver|Martinete Especial]]
-|titles=[[National Middleweight Title]], [[National Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Electro Shock]]), [[AAA Mascot Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Mini Abismo Negro]]), [[NWA/TNA America's X-Cup (2004)]] (w/ [[Mr. Águila]], [[Juventud Guerrera]], [[Héctor Garza]], [[Heavy Metal]]))
+|titles=[[National Middleweight Title]], [[National Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Electro Shock]]), 2000 [[Rey de Reyes]], [[AAA Mascot Tag Team Titles]] (w/ [[Mini Abismo Negro]]), [[NWA/TNA America's X-Cup (2004)]] (w/ [[Mr. Águila]], [[Juventud Guerrera]], [[Héctor Garza]], [[Heavy Metal]]))
 |}}
 == Notes ==
-'''Abismo Negro''' was a mainstay of AAA, usually a rudo in the biggest matches and often part of the some version of the [[Vipers]]. Abismo Negro actually started his major promotion career in CMLL as '''Furor''', but jumped to AAA in it's earliest days. Before he was Abismo Negro, he was the first man in AAA to use the name '''Winners''', a female favorite tecnico who lost his mask to [[Super Calo]]. The connection between the two characters is not publicly acknowledged, and Abismo Negro has become the much more well known character.
+'''Abismo Negro''' was a mainstay of [[AAA]], usually a rudo in the biggest matches and often part of the some version of the [[Vipers]]. Abismo Negro actually started his major promotion career in [[CMLL]] as '''Furor''', but jumped to AAA in it's earliest days. Before he was Abismo Negro, he was the first man in AAA to use the name '''Winners''', a female favorite tecnico who lost his mask to [[Super Calo]]. The connection between the two characters is not publicly acknowledged, and Abismo Negro has become the much more well known character.
 Abismo Negro was known as "El Rey del Martinete" due to his frequent use of banned piledrivers moves. While the martinete is more often broken up than executed, Abismo has taken out opponents with the move many times. Abismo was also frequently seen with an aerosol can and a lighter, allowing him to blow fire during this entrance and for victories.
@@ Line 31: / Line 31: @@
 Abismo's biggest rival was [[Latin Lover]]. The two have not only wrestled against each other often, gotten into fights on non-AAA variety TV shows and teased mask vs hair matches. Latin's appears to be on the outside of AAA at the moment and any final match between the two went stalled. Abismo battled drug problems thru his career, and missed long stretches of recent years while dealing with them.
-Abismo Negro spent 2008 and 2009 feuding with the Vipers, after they kicked him out of the group for not being around enough when they needed him. The Vipers, now led by [[Mr. Niebla]], created a new Abismo Negro ([[Black Abyss) to replace him. This feud was set to climax at TripleMania, at first in a Abismo vs Niebla direct mask match, and later a match which would pit Abismo versus all the Vipers, but Abismo again started missing shows and was dropped by the company. AAA tested out using Black Abyss actually as Abismo Negro on some spot shows and, but the idea never made it TV.
+Abismo Negro spent 2008 and 2009 feuding with the Vipers, after they kicked him out of the group for not being around enough when they needed him. The Vipers, now led by [[Mr. Niebla]], created a new Abismo Negro ([[Black Abyss]]) to replace him. This feud was set to climax at TripleMania, at first in a Abismo vs Niebla direct mask match, and later a match which would pit Abismo versus all the Vipers, but Abismo again started missing shows and was dropped by the company. AAA tested out using Black Abyss actually as Abismo Negro on some spot shows and, but the idea never made it to TV.
-Mr. Niebla jumped back to AAA, so when Abismo was finally brought back (after at least one false start), the feud changed to a direct rivalry with his replacement Black Abyss. Again, the feud seemed headed to a mask match at TripleMania. On the last show Abismo worked, he lost to Black Abyss by martinete in the Rey de Reyes tournament to add more to the feud.
+Mr. Niebla jumped back to [[CMLL]], so when Abismo was finally brought back (after at least one false start), the feud changed to a direct rivalry with his replacement Black Abyss. Again, the feud seemed headed to a mask match at TripleMania. On the last show Abismo worked, he lost to Black Abyss by martinete in the Rey de Reyes tournament to add more to the feud.
 [[Abismo Negro]] died March 22, 2009 near El Rosario, Sinaloa. He apparently drowned in a river.
+In [[2013]] he was inducted into [[AAA Hall of Fame]].
+== Notas en ESPANOL ==
+'''Abismo Negro''' No era nuevo a las carteleras estelares en las empresas mas conocidas y lucrativas de lucha libre en mexico. Especialmente [[AAA]], normalmente como rudo en sus luchas mas grandes y muy recordado por fanaticos de los [[Vipers]]. Abismo Negro empezo su carrera como "FUROR", fue uno de los luchadores que dieron el brinco de [[CMLL]] a AAA en sus inicios en 1993. Antes de usar el nombre de "AVISMO NEGRO" fue el primero en la AAA que uso el nombre de "WINNERS", este era muy popular con la aficion femenina y perdio la MASCARA VS SUPER CALO. La conexion ente los 2 luchadores bajo la misma identidad no se menciona popularmente puesto que ABISMO NEGRO  se ha convertido en el personaje mas conocido.
+'''Abismo Negro''' era llamado  "el rey del martinete", ya que usaba la maniobra con frequencia, la cual es prohibidos en el pancracio mexicano. Muchas veces sus oponentes pudieron contrariar el enganche, sinembargo,  ABISMO NEGRO era muy conocido por terminar sus luchas de esta manera. Tambien se le conocia por usar un encendedor y algun liquido flamable lo cual le daba la oportunidad de hacer sus entradas mucho mas espectaculares.
+ABISMO NEGRO siempre fue uno de los RUDOS preferidos y mas conocidos de AAA, puesto que su trabajo normalmente hacia ver a muchos de sus contrincantes mejor de lo que en realidad eran. Ademas de su membresia de "VIPER", Abismo fue un importante miembro de la " Triple LLL" durante los dias mas importantes de las dos mencionadas facciones luchisticas. Avismo muchas veces se acompanaba de su MINI-LUCHADOR  "MINI ABISMO NEGRO" con quienes compartio muchas rivalidades juntos. Mascara y Mascarita Sagrada fue quizas la mas conocida, esto en el 2001. Abismo negro nunca obtuvo popularidad como "TECNICO".
+Como representante de AAA, Abismo lucho en [[TNA]] durante la copa "WORLD X CUP". Se le conocio trabajo con empresas japonesas incluyendo [[NOAH]]. Abismo solia aparecer en un programa de television en mexico[http://www.esmas.com/vidatv/ Vida TV]. Era el juez de un concurso de talento. Su mayor rivalidad fue contra [[Latin Lover]]. Ellos han luchado uno contra el otro in-numerables occasiones atraves de sus carreras y han peleado '''SHOOT''' en television mexicana con habla de una lucha 'MASCARA VS CABELLERA '.
+"LATIN LOVER" no estaba bajo contrato en esos dias por lo cual la lucha nunca ocurrio. Abismo tuvo la lucha mas grande de su vida con las dependencias quimicas sea el alcohol o las drogas no se sabe exactamente. En sus ultimos dias hubo  muchas funciones en las cuales el nunca hizo su aparicion. Abismo paso el 08 y el 09 en enemistad con los VIPERS, despues que lo sacaron del grupo tras acusaciones de no apoyar al grupo cuando se le necesitaba, los vipers los cuales ahora son liderados por [[Mr. Niebla]], crearon un clon de ABISMO y lo llamaron "BLACK ABYSS".
+La culminacion de esta rivalidad estaba marcada en el calendario y carteleras como parte de  TRIPLEMANIA. Primero, se anuncio una lucha avismo vs Mr niebla 'MASCARA vs MASCARA' y despes una lucha de avismo contra todos los vipers. Avismo otravez falto a presentarse a muchas llamadas luchisticas por lo cual fue retirado de las filas luchisticas como empleado. AAA uso a "black abyss" como "avismo negro" pero la idea nuca se prolongo a la television ni el guion escrito.
+Mr. Niebla regreso al [[CMLL]] por lo tanto cuando avismo regreso a los entarimados la rivalidad ya no podia existir. Su rivalidad cambio directamente contra  su clon de funciones anteriores "BLACK ABYSS" y aun otravez la rivalidad aparecia dar pistas que culminaria en una lucha en TRIPLEMANIA. La ultima vez que se le miro trabajar un encordado perdio contra "BLACK ABYSS" via martinete. Esto se presencio en el torneo de "rey de reyes" lo cual se suponia aumentaria mas la rivalidad.
+[[Abismo Negro]] Murio repentina  y misteriosamente el 22 de marzo del ano 2009 cerca de "EL ROSARIO" SINALOA, MEX. Aparentemente victima de ahogarse en un rio local.
 == Lucha de Apuestas Record ==
 {{astart}}
 {{aline|??/??/??|hair (1)|[[Abismo Negro]]|[[Stuka Jr.]]|unknown}}
-{{aline|??/??/??|hair|Winners|[[El Noruego]]|unknown}}
+{{aline|??/??/??|hair|Furor|[[El Noruego]]|unknown}}
+{{aline|??/??/??|hair|Winners|[[El Migra]]|[[Ciudad Juárez]]}}
 {{aline|[[1995|95]]/[[June 18|06/18]]|mask|Winners|[[Marabunta]]|[[Auditorio Rio Nilo]] - [[Tonala]], [[Jalisco]]}}
 {{aline|[[1995|95]]/[[June 30|06/30]]|mask|[[Super Caló]]|Winners|[[Centro de Convenciones]] - [[Madero]], [[Tamaulipas]]}}
-{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[January 30|01/30]]|hair (2)|Abismo Negro|[[The Panther]]|[[Arena Solidaridad]] - [[Monterrey]], [[Nuevo León]]}}
+{{aline|[[2000|??]]/[[??|??/??]]|hair |Abismo Negro|[[Yanko]]|[[Gimnasio Muncipal Josue Neri Santos]] - [[Ciudad Juárez]], [[Chihuahua]]}}
+{{aline|[[2000|00]]/[[January 30|01/30]]|hair (2)|Abismo Negro|[[The Panther (Reynosa)|The Panther]]|[[Arena Solidaridad]] - [[Monterrey]], [[Nuevo León]]}}
 {{aline|[[2001|01]]/[[September 7|09/07]]|hair (3)|Abismo Negro|[[El Alebrije]]|[[Auditorio de Tijuana]] - [[Tijuana]], [[Baja California]]}}
-{{aline|??/??/??|hair|[[Abismo Negro]]|[[La Fiera]]|Fut Rap - Nuevo Laredo}}
+{{aline|2007/??/??|hair|[[Abismo Negro]]|[[La Fiera]]|Fut Rap - Nuevo Laredo}}
 {{aend|'''(1)''' Hair vs. Hair between masked wrestlers <b>(2)</b> Hair vs. Hair between masked wrestlers; <b>(3)</b> Hair vs. Hair between masked wrestlers}}
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 {{Gallery||name=WinnersUnmasked.jpg|caption=after losing his mask}}
 {{Gallery||name=Furor.jpg|caption=Furor}}
+{{Gallerywide||name=FB IMG 1495688614060-1.jpg|caption=unmasked}}
 {{Gallery||name=Abismo8.jpg|caption= as Abismo Negro}}
 {{Gallery||name=Abismo.jpg|caption= as Abismo Negro}}
 {{Gallery||name=Abismonegro.jpg|caption=Older}}
-<Br clear=all>
 {{Gallery||name=Abismo_on_mr._fortis_gym.jpg|caption=}}
 {{Gallery||name=AbismoNegro_en_vida_tv.jpg‎|caption= On vida TV}}
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 {{Gallery||name=Abismo7-copia.jpg|caption=}}
 {{Gallery||name=Abismo Negro (57).jpg‎|caption= Martinete To Latin Lover}}
-{{Gallery||name=Martinete+special.bmp.jpg‎|caption= Martinete Special To El Oriental}}
 <Br clear=all>
 {{Gallery||name=With fans.jpg|caption= With His Fans on AAA Tour}}
 {{Gallery||name=Abismo Special.jpg|caption= Martinete Special To Black Abyss}}
 {{Gallery||name=AbismoCSL.jpg|caption= Abismo in [[Cabo San Lucas]], January 17, 2009}}
+{{Gallery||name=36874219_1286393298158188_9154988254762631168_n.jpg|caption=as Winners with Rey}}
+{{Gallery||name=149145452_2135175076613335_1782008831897810464_n.jpg|caption=}}
+{{Gallery||name=Luchaphotos 210881641 404246610920530 5900307631137400676 n.jpg|caption= with [[Cibernético]] & [[Kick Boxer]]}}
+{{Gallery||name=Martinete+special.bmp.jpg‎|caption= Martinete Special To El Oriental}}
+{{Gallery||name=296688016_2579806038816901_2444531270171656729_n.jpg|caption=}}
+{{Gallery||name=449514173_879327057567974_6607055805328484751_n.jpg|caption=}}
+<Br clear=all>
+== Video Clips ==
+{{#ev:youtube|VPyxKi_4tFI}}
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-[[Category:Current AAA/PAP wrestlers]]
 [[Category:TNA wrestlers]]
 [[Category:Deceased wrestlers]]
+[[Category:Former AAA/PAP wrestlers]]
+[[Category:Former CMLL wrestlers]]
+[[Category:NOAH wrestlers]]
+[[Category:WWE wrestlers]]

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