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Can we confirm Chessman won Zorro's belt? I don't remember reading that...--[[User:Robert|Robert]] 03:18, 3 September 2007 (EDT) | Can we confirm Chessman won Zorro's belt? I don't remember reading that...--[[User:Robert|Robert]] 03:18, 3 September 2007 (EDT) | ||
on today AAA tv show chessman appear with the title | |||
== 1987-9ish weirdness == | |||
We have Loco Zandokan defeating Villano I for the title on 1987.01.17. Here's Villano I still defending the same title on 1987.12.11: | |||
[[image:19871211uwaneza.jpg|200px|thumb]] | |||
Maybe the title change is a year off? [http://www.wrestling-titles.com/mexico/uwa/uwa-lh.html Wrestling-Titles] also lists iffy Ringo & Zadokan title reigns during this period. --[[User:Thecubsfan|Thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Thecubsfan|talk]]) 14:15, 11 December 2013 (CST) | |||
And I found another record of a Villano I title defense on 1987.07.22 (vs [[Brazo de Oro]] in [[Arena Naucalpan]].) Maybe the title change is just off a year? Going to take the day off. --[[User:Thecubsfan|Thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Thecubsfan|talk]]) 14:44, 22 December 2013 (CST) | |||
== Title revived in Japan?== | |||
Hey [[User:Nkhan|Thecubsfan]]. It seems this title may have surfaced in Japan possibly? - https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=304428&page=2. K-Dojo/JTO used to have the [[UWA World Middleweight Championship]], but this is definitely named the lightweight title. From what I could find, neither Black Chango or Eagle Mask won it from anyone. This is what it looks like - {{Gallery|name=EvKsCATVoAUeewZ.jpg|caption=}} | |||
That's a very different-looking belt than the one Mesias had at the end and doesn't match the previous style. It could be someone making a new belt, but I suspect it might be the same belt that was being used as the middleweight championship under a different name. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 20:59, 28 February 2021 (PST) | |||
I looked through the Just Tap Out tweets and their website, this was an unnecessary deep dive | |||
* TAKA calls it the [[UWA Lightweight Championship]] | |||
* many of the fans and even the group Black Chango is in seems to think it's the Light Heavyweight champion | |||
* one person says it's the [[UWA Junior Light Heavyweight Championship]] | |||
I think that one person is right? [https://pwjto.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/uwa_light_belt.jpg the photo on their website] shows the belt clearly, it says Light Heavyweight and JR, though I can't find another JLH belt like that. It's TAKA belt so it's probably canonically supposed to be the lightweight title. | |||
As best I can tell, Black Chango just appears with it on their December show, maybe having snatched it out some collector's trophy case. --[[User:Thecubsfan|Thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Thecubsfan|talk]]) 21:19, 28 February 2021 (PST) | |||
== 1985 == | |||
something happens in late 1985 where there's a tournament announced starting on September 22nd with a seeding battle royal to determine a new champion. Fishman is still around, on that card, but they talk about him having vacated the title. That show probably didn't happen due to the earthquake and it never comes up again. Just putting this here in case it comes up in 1986. --[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] ([[User talk:Nkhan|talk]]) 19:09, 15 November 2021 (PST) | |||
There's also a El Solitario/Dr. Wagner title match on April 18th, which gets everyone in UWA very upset. It gets as far as an official later from Promociones Mora published in Halcon 680 declaring the title match unauthorized and Fishman as the only recognized champion. |
Latest revision as of 21:14, 15 November 2021
The date of Zorro's first title win is based off a tape listing - I don't know that's the title change date, but it would seem to fit.
Zorro has the belt on current AAA TV (April 2007-ish), but it's a complete mystery how he got the title back. --thecubsfan 15:48, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
Can we confirm Chessman won Zorro's belt? I don't remember reading that...--Robert 03:18, 3 September 2007 (EDT)
on today AAA tv show chessman appear with the title
1987-9ish weirdness
We have Loco Zandokan defeating Villano I for the title on 1987.01.17. Here's Villano I still defending the same title on 1987.12.11:
Maybe the title change is a year off? Wrestling-Titles also lists iffy Ringo & Zadokan title reigns during this period. --Thecubsfan (talk) 14:15, 11 December 2013 (CST)
And I found another record of a Villano I title defense on 1987.07.22 (vs Brazo de Oro in Arena Naucalpan.) Maybe the title change is just off a year? Going to take the day off. --Thecubsfan (talk) 14:44, 22 December 2013 (CST)
Title revived in Japan?
Hey Thecubsfan. It seems this title may have surfaced in Japan possibly? - https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=304428&page=2. K-Dojo/JTO used to have the UWA World Middleweight Championship, but this is definitely named the lightweight title. From what I could find, neither Black Chango or Eagle Mask won it from anyone. This is what it looks like -
That's a very different-looking belt than the one Mesias had at the end and doesn't match the previous style. It could be someone making a new belt, but I suspect it might be the same belt that was being used as the middleweight championship under a different name. --thecubsfan (talk) 20:59, 28 February 2021 (PST)
I looked through the Just Tap Out tweets and their website, this was an unnecessary deep dive
- TAKA calls it the UWA Lightweight Championship
- many of the fans and even the group Black Chango is in seems to think it's the Light Heavyweight champion
- one person says it's the UWA Junior Light Heavyweight Championship
I think that one person is right? the photo on their website shows the belt clearly, it says Light Heavyweight and JR, though I can't find another JLH belt like that. It's TAKA belt so it's probably canonically supposed to be the lightweight title.
As best I can tell, Black Chango just appears with it on their December show, maybe having snatched it out some collector's trophy case. --Thecubsfan (talk) 21:19, 28 February 2021 (PST)
1985
something happens in late 1985 where there's a tournament announced starting on September 22nd with a seeding battle royal to determine a new champion. Fishman is still around, on that card, but they talk about him having vacated the title. That show probably didn't happen due to the earthquake and it never comes up again. Just putting this here in case it comes up in 1986. --thecubsfan (talk) 19:09, 15 November 2021 (PST)
There's also a El Solitario/Dr. Wagner title match on April 18th, which gets everyone in UWA very upset. It gets as far as an official later from Promociones Mora published in Halcon 680 declaring the title match unauthorized and Fishman as the only recognized champion.